https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Sarah&feedformat=atomFuture Of Mankind - User contributions [en]2024-03-29T10:25:25ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.35.2https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_camera_never_lies%3F,_Brookesmith,_Peter,_UFO_updates_mailing_list,_internet,_January_1997&diff=18435Talk:The camera never lies?, Brookesmith, Peter, UFO updates mailing list, internet, January 19972012-04-21T19:26:43Z<p>Sarah: Comment provided by Sarah - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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does anyone know where to contact Bill Spaulding I was a former member of GSW and would like to get in touch with him<br />
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== Sarah said ... ==<br />
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I couldnt take this article seriously, cause the writer came into the discussion with the obvious objective to disprove meier, not objectively investigate. Which is not scientific by the way.<br />
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--[[User:Sarah|Sarah]] 20:26, 21 April 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Sarah said ... ==<br />
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I couldnt take this article seriously, cause the writer came into the discussion with the obvious objective to disprove meier, not objectively investigate. Which is not scientific by the way.<br />
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--[[User:Sarah|Sarah]] 20:26, 21 April 2012 (BST)<br />
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does anyone know where to contact Bill Spaulding I was a former member of GSW and would like to get in touch with him<br />
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I couldnt take this article seriously, cause the writer came into the discussion with the obvious objective to disprove meier, not objectively investigate. Which is not scientific by the way.<br />
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--[[User:Sarah|Sarah]] 20:26, 21 April 2012 (BST)<br />
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Does Billy's answer mean that ''to know the answer is too dangerous for mankind at this time''?<br />
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it certainly seems as such.:)<br />
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Doesn't Billy have a pal on Earth known as Gilgamesh that can transform into a giant version of the aformentioned chupacabra and make them disappear if hostile abracadabra.:)I think we need universal wildlife security pronto.<br />
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I would think it would be more dangerous for the chupacabra, if men were to know the truth.<br />
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I guess it depends on what is meant by the fact that Billy "knows about" them. It could simply mean that he knows what the questioner is talking about, since Billy himself has seen or otherwise knows about the videos of them on TV. If that is all that he knows, then he "cannot" answer the questions because he himself has no precise knowledge of the creatures. The fact that the creatures are described as "those ape-like creatures from TV" does make it seem that he only knows about them from T.V. and not from any other source. Nevertheless, if the "cannot" does mean that he has detailed information about them but is not allowed to reveal any of it, then that makes me want to look into the chupacabra a whole lot more!<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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I have to agree with Benjamin Stevens that at this time Billy is not allowed to clarify this question. On a number of occasions, the Plejarens have put a lid on what BEAM can and cannot say, either because it is dangerous for him and others or Earth humans are not evolved enough to grasp the truth.<br />
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Could the Chupacabra be related to those similar in description, (especially the red fluorescent eyes) of those who were present in Jmmanuel’s cave? When Mary, Jmmanuel’s mother tried to touch these Beings, but was warned not too because it was too dangerous for her to do so.<br />
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Hawaiian, in the TJ it says on page 192 that Joseph of Arimathea and Jmmanuel's Indian friends entered the tomb via a secret entrance to heal Jmmanuel's wounds over a period of 3 days and nights.<br />
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22. And behold, again a guardian angel met them on their way and said, "Remember what you have been instructed to do. Be careful and do not inadvertently tell the people (about Jmmanuel's rising from apparent death - James).<br /><br />
23. Maria and Magdalena approached the guardian angel, who wore a brilliant white garment, and she wanted to grasp his hand.<br /><br />
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There is no mention of red eyed beings in the tomb anywhere in the book (4th edition).<br />
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So you have possibly unintentionally twisted the multiple facts by your statement.<br />
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Yeah Jamesum..you're correct...my fault..got linked the wrong connection...:-)<br />
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From the FIGU Forum (Questions Answered by Billy): <br />
Hi Billy, One of the first well known uses of the term Men in Black was in the 1962 book Flying Saucers & the Three Men by Albert Bender. In that book, the author describes the Men in Black as "Men dressed in Black with glowing eyes, they changed their form to what they really looked like, a hideous creature".<br />
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Are these the same Men in Black that were altering your pictures? If not then why do you use this term, as it is thoroughly discredited today & could cause confusion?<br />
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Yes. However, their eyes are not glowing, but fluorescent. --- There are only a few of them left (a group of old Sirians).<br />
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The other MiB are "Regierungslümmel" (governmental etc. agents).[1]<br />
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Uh wha? I thought the apelike creature was big foot.<br />
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--[[User:Sarah|Sarah]] 05:35, 11 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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dear asket i am wish to talk and meet you personal i am know you are too far from our dern to dal universe <br />
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asket is right i have knew something not right of lord jmmanuel <br />
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Did you ever think about doing a dancing with the stars universal edition featuring Asket partnered with Will Smith, Nera partnered with Tommy Lee Jones, and Billy with Sharon Stone. Good ratings which could lead up to a gigantic space series. :) I come in peace and don't want to leave in pieces. <br />
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Question 2 of my 100 question series? What does Asket and Nera translate to? Thanks <br />
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Wow! Asket, whatever her age, She looks so spiritual, so nice. I could say she's so sexy! in spirit. I love her. I always dreamed about growing up sufficiently to meet some one like her or to be able to create my own feminine worlds to create myself, women like her to love and be loved.<br />
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Wow! Asket, whatever her age, She looks so spiritual, so nice. I could say she's so sexy! in spirit. I love her. I always dreamed about growing up sufficiently to meet some one like her or to be able to create my own feminine worlds to create myself, women like her to love and be loved.<br />
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Be mindful of what you say, dear brothers, as this is not an official FIGU web site and it is highly unlikely that Eduard or any Plejaren will ever read your comments. I wouldn't rule it out though, considering the Plejarens' tech level.<br />
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Jamesm,<br />
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I'm glad you're watching the comment section, because I am afraid it will turn into some chaotic forum. Unfortunately the official FIGU forum has become like that, although there are a few highly enlighten ones, it is buried by silly immature comments.<br />
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It is hard to support the Mission of Truth for those seeking the answers that were and continued to be suppressed, let alone be further mired by undisciplined off-the-wall remarks.<br />
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That is the reason why I quit posting in the FIGU forums years ago and hope my posts don't suffer the same here?<br />
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Remembering the seven-fold structure of a given universe, our own being the DERN....<br />
These seven universal belts, are listed by Plejaren scientists, as follows: <br />
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1. Central Core <br />
2. Ur-Core Belt <br />
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4. Solid-state Matter Universe Belt <br />
5. Transformation Belt <br />
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The important factor to note being that the DAL universe is outside of and parallel to the DERN's structure, listed above...and likewise possesses a similar structure of it's own...<br />
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Asket was Meier's second contact, following the Plejare known as Sfath...<br />
She came from this parallel universe, which requires a very special device to navigate to and return...<br />
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The renegade, Ashtar Sheran, was destroyed while flying over Asket's home world of Timar...in the Akon Star system. His Soul is linked (bonded) under the creational laws to that universe now...<br />
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I must confess that Asket is a very attractive woman and what ManuHernz said about her is not disrespectful, in spite of Jamesm's caution...<br />
And Jamesm is correct to suggest that the Plejaren are more than capable of reading the thoughts (and fantasies) of the participants here...even without logging onto the net.<br />
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Galactic humans recognised human sexuality without the need to temper it with guilt...<br />
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Drekx is now banned from posting on this site for 1 year.<br />
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Hawaiian, I agree, I want to allow discussion on all subjects but without insulting or childish remarks or the spreading of false information. Do you think I have done right in banning them?<br />
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==<br />
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Jamesm,<br />
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Hey fella, no offense intended...!! :-) <br />
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Obviously the ban didn't work. I'll look into it.<br />
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==<br />
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Jamesm,<br />
You seem insecure and overly protective of what you consider to be truth...maybe you could try some meditation and cease your blind phobias of those who may see as different to yourself...<br />
The Plejaren do no want blind followers like you, as you have nothing original to offer anyone...you are simply copying Billy Meier's material like any other robot does...The cosmos does not need more robots, nor more religions...<br />
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Drekx, ok fair enough. You have equal rights to the rest of us so you can post here if you like but be prepared to receive more strong criticism.<br />
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OK Jamesm,<br />
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That is your first fair response to me here and I thank you for it...<br />
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I do belive that alien life exist but I think this guy meier might be a hoax I don't know. I hope he was sayin the truth but I really don't know what to think.<br />
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our thoughts can not travel outside of our dern universe , but lets say for any reason asket is inside our universe and if i send a telepathic thought to asket , does she have to be tuned in to my thought frequency to receive it or she would get it right away? i have attempted to contact her for purely spiritual reasons , i can be a help to rase the frequency of earth .<br />
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our thoughts can not travel outside of our dern universe , but lets say for any reason asket is inside our universe and if i send a telepathic thought to asket , does she have to be tuned in to my thought frequency to receive it or she would get it right away? i have attempted to contact her for purely spiritual reasons , i can be a help to rase the frequency of earth .<br />
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Ashegheaty, I believe you would have to sign for the deluxe meditation package from your spiritual provider.:)<br />
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Here are the list of Earth human life forms who have ever seen Asket directly:<br />
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- Immanuel and his friends.<br />
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Only Phobol Cheng has ever said that the blonde woman on mister Billy's "Asket and Nera" photo is not Asket. She said that Asket's hair is black (But any woman like to dye their hair). She said that Asket's face looks like a mixture of asian and caucasian (But any woman like to have cosmetic plastic surgery). She said that Asket's is not much taller than her (But any woman like to wear high heels). She said that Asket has a soft voice (But any woman could soften her voice while singing a lullaby).<br />
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How about the drawing of Asket's face on this website? Does it represent Asket's face? (Frankly I do not care much if it represents someone from a centrefold, but I would openly express my objection if someday the drawing is replaced with a portrait of Robocop). <br />
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Thanks Alive from you comments Asket is a T1000 from the Terminator movies, I want one of those. :) Just don't tell Arnold he is in a bit of a bind right now. <br />
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There is no way that Asket is an android. She has a soft voice.<br />
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We could get rough picture of Asket by asking Phobol Cheng and some people from Ashoka Ashram to give descriptions of Asket before an illustrator from a police department, then give the picture to mister Billy to be scrutinized and commented. It will satisfy many men's desires to know how Asket really looks like and the Earth will be more peaceful than ever. <br />
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How should I appreciate this portrait after I read Phobol Cheng's statement about Asket? This is her statement:<br />
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Hmm, I wonder if Asket looks anything like Björk? Based on that description, she might...<br />
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Oh you men, such visual creatures. Does it really matter what Asket looks like? If she were old, fat and ugly would her message be less important? I don't think so.<br />
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I remember reading that the advanced people can change there hair color just by emotion. :) j/k I think they can change the color of there eyes for sure, we can do that too we have contact lenses on Earth. I don't see the big fuss. Unless they can change eye color instantaneosly without contact lense. If that's the case, whoa. We also have a nice thing called the wig on Earth as well so all is not lost. I am certain we can match at least 7% of there capabilities if we all worked together without destructive forces. <br />
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Hi Rem,<br />
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I just watched Bjoerk on Youtube. You are right. It is hard to say whether she is caucasian or asian. She has black hair and she is not tall. The main problem is that Bjoerk has a little sympathy for lesbianism, which would be very controversial if her portrait substitues current hoax Asket's portrait.<br />
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We should try to contact Phobol Cheng and beg her to give descriptions of Asket. I see no other way. Jitschi will not talk, since he was threatened by Asket not to tell people what he saw.<br />
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Whose portrait is that?<br />
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(Do not you notice her? She is one of Charlie's Angels.)<br />
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I know what she was thinking of. "Where is Batman?"<br />
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I know what she was thinking of. "When would Buck Rogers return my skateboard?" <br />
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I know what she was thinking of. "When would Green Lantern pick me up?"<br />
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Asket had very definite blonde hair in the "real" photo Billy still has (not the fake one of the American singer), although they do look quite similar. She did not look even slightly Asian, but only Caucasian. If her hair was dark when Phoebal Chung saw her, it could have been dyed which they do for health reasons. It's also possibly that Miss Chung's memory of Asket is slightly skewed, as that happens over many years. There's no way Asket could have changed her facial features to look Asian-Caucasian mix when she simply doesn't look that in the picture. Well I don't think even people many millions of years advanced could do that (or would do that).<br />
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You never know, they possess technology far beyond our math and scientific capability, they might be able to attach and detach limbs at will. :) j/k If they could create realistic faces in Mission Impossible I'm sure the races in advance of a couple thousand years have a few more tricks than we do. <br />
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I know what she was thinking of. "What should I wear for christmas? Formal evening gown or casual Fantastic Four costume?" <br />
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(It is enough. It ends today.)<br />
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Okay, as you want it.<br />
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One thing I'm wondering. It says they installed a system that keeps the MIB from attacking Billy. But does it keep them from attacking us?<br />
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--[[User:Sarah|Sarah]] 05:25, 11 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== aliens said ... ==<br />
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did anyone know?<br />
How were the Plejarens able to arrest the Bafath and then remove all their equipment from under the Giza pyramid in year of 1978?<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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If a degenerate human like I can read the Goblet of Truth and find the truth anybody can!There exists many higher evolved Humans in this Universe who know only shame because they won't find the truth and live according to the laws and recommendations of creation.Shame on you!<br />
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Since Hitler was influenced by the Giza Intel through the Thule society, some of the Thule society members would had to have been the GI themselves.<br />
The mass exodus of former SS members to Antarctica and South America suggests that some elements were Thule society members, with the escape before the great defeat in submarines, being directed by GI and safe haven provided for the escaping Nazis by them.<br />
I can recall an account by surviving members of the American contingents who's mission was to track down the Nazis in Antarctica being confronted with some heinous beasts guarding the entrance of the subterranean base.<br />
Some were unlucky to have met their deadly fate by these hairy animals.<br />
Since it is an undeniable fact that GI and Nazis had direct face to face contact and have collaborated in various projects together not in the least, the assassination attempts on Billy, UFO abductions of people, posing as venusians and martians and giving false information to the unsuspecting, preparing for the second coming of Christ, perpetuating satanism and satanic ritualistic practices on the unsuspecting public and telenotically influencing future would be cult leaders such as billy graham, ron hubbard, jim jones, reverend moon, Marshall Applewhite (1931–1997) and Bonnie Nettles (1928-1985) among scores of other world leaders to start a third world war, one can only wonder whether the neo nazi earth humans that comprised the 2000 odd extraterrestrial GI members had also been deported to extraterrestrial prison planets given their associations with GI.<br />
It does give weight to this possibility<br />
Just thinking about the so numerous machinations perpetrated by the GI just evokes nothing but disdainful contempt and perplexity at how all this was even true in the first place yet it is without a doubt the unequivocal truth.<br />
Unless the beautiful plejarens were the reason, I cannot fathom how the GIs would've missed the simple logic of not using their telenotic mind control devices to influence the whole world's population rather than just the many hundreds of leaders and would be cult leaders.<br />
If they did try then would the telenotic influence or its after effects still linger with those of us born before the GIs deportation because it seems like the people who've killed the most human beings are the ones born before 1978 the year of GIs departure and the destruction of their installations.<br />
Its also obvious that GI members were freely walking among the earth humans as also the ashtar sheran group.<br />
Would this be the reason why to this day many people still assert that ETs are among us in governments and so on.<br />
If Eisenhower never met any ETs then what about GI members who the plejarens would consider terrestrial given how long they've been here on earth.<br />
This also begs the question, since the plejarens and billy cannot discuss military matters, the assertion that Billy is the only face to face contactee in the world and that people did have examination and telepathic contacts does not extend to military personnels, then obviously some members of the military did have close encounters of the 5th kind.<br />
This begs another question were the GIs responsible for bringing down the zeti reticulum android controlled UFOs and few others around the world<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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It isn't too tough to confuse anybody on our planet with there main objectives being money, power, military might. Anyone from outer space could promise these things and we would be slaves. I think we need to find the more important things in life like the knowledge that has been brought to us 7 times by many prophets. If it is as they say taking this knowledge through many lifetimes is a priceless gift which no material possession can compare to. <br />
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== Kevin of Virginia said ... ==<br />
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They certainly haven't returned but they maybe still have adepts around the world, who still think that their bosses are here and pulling the strings, who knows what these Gizeh liers promised them....... They were real deceivers and they always tried to hide themselves from the public, because they were afraid of the governments. If they really returned my dear Kevin, you would not know it, unless yourself would be one of them..... or they would invade our planet with their beam ships in the first place, because their initial plan did not work, even they worked on it for many thousand years :) And where should they hide ? the cave under the Gizeh pyramid was destroyed by the Plejaren and meanwhile such a thing would not go unnoticed anymore by our governments or by us because with the overpopulation no m2 is without eyes (organic or electronic) anymore, unless you have such a high technology as the Plejaren or the Sonaer from the DAL universe.....Anyway we are strong enough and intelligent enough to protect us if we only let our reason and intellect guide us.... <br />
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It is sad but true, but some extraterrestrial civilisations have higher technology than we have, but are still in the very dark concerning the evolution of their consciousness and ethical values.... May they find their way....<br />
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My thought is the universe is still very young as a whole in thought, imagine if everyone were to have the top tech it would create a power struggle. Good would be tempted and the bad would become more wicked. It would be nice if those beings that have advanced to higher levels of absolutum due to the timelessness factor would kindly police the universe for growing threats. All material forms can be shaped into good or evil.:)<br />
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does anyone know about this project bluebeam? the holographic mock space invasion? I know I have asked before but no one answered so I wanted to put it out there one more time. thanks<br />
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I saw the youtube videos and it looks like a good made for TV miniseries this project bluebeam.:) I wonder if anyone has investigated this, send in Spielberg. j/k After even more youtube research, I do notice a lot of those chemtrails going on every now and then everywhere I go. Only the viscious and wicked could come up with such a plan. If you build a good foundation then you shall endure, fool the people and you shall receive the effect of your cause.:)<br />
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Actually there was an incident in Hawaii on the Big Island, come recluse engineer made a laser device that projected a hologram of Santa with his reindeer sled going across the sky late one night.<br />
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The federal authorities was not impressed and seized gave him stern warnings and confiscated his equipment. There was allot of calls from the public about UFO's flying around, so yes Bluebeam could be a good idea of fooling the public for one's own dark agendas.<br />
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Maybe the Giza SOB's had a similar agenda, but the only problem was they were so few in number (2100 or so) to try to rule the world all by themselves. Sure glad they got arrested and exiled to some far away planet by the Plejarens.<br />
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The only regret I have is why just have them expire, the Plejarens, with their technology could actually "influence" these misfits by "injecting" into their dreams the necessary negative experiences they have done onto others, so that the Giza will "understand" what's it's like to be on the receiving end.<br />
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And through free will, hopefully have guilt and turn themselves around to make amends, that will ensure their spiritual evolution continues. Thus, both sides of the equation will benefit, which is just a small part of the Equational Potentials theory that I mention previously.<br />
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So wait a minute here, if Ptaah the impulses will remain here for 200 to 300 years, where are they getting this 800 years thing from?<br />
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I have read the living words of teaching from mr. Billy Meier. The teaching of Billy are not from this earth. They are spiritual teaching which norrish the mind and spirit. I thank mr. Billy so much for his effort and time to open the truth to mankind on earth. Thank you for more than a billion times.<br />
The teaching of Billy will be known by all human beings. <br />
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Praise be to Creation.<br />
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Where do these people come from claiming he's Jesus Christ? They must come from the stone age or further back. :) Just have a good laugh and move on, these aren't the droids we're looking for. <br />
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A while ago when I was studying things about this, somehow I thought that BM was the incarnation of Jmmanuel. I got confused and I think I told a couple people this and I truly regret it. I hope everyone gets to read this article because it has all the right information. I am sorry, I was confused and now I know it's better not to talk about it and examine the information more closely. I am really not that stupid, or maybe I am, I was more confused. I am still a huge Meier fan because I know the teachings are truth, but I won't be talking about any of it any time soon. I am sorry for the damage this caused. <br />
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A while ago when I was studying things about this, somehow I thought that BM was the incarnation of Jmmanuel. I got confused and I think I told a couple people this and I truly regret it. I hope everyone gets to read this article because it has all the right information. I am sorry, I was confused and now I know it's better not to talk about it and examine the information more closely. I am really not that stupid, or maybe I am, I was more confused. I am still a huge Meier fan because I know the teachings are truth, but I won't be talking about any of it any time soon. I am sorry for the damage this caused. <br />
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William youre definately not the only one to make mistakes! Its all part of evolution though so its fine/ok.<br />
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Wow this is beyond fabrication. I love how to deflect critisim you try to say every other religion is false. That Jesus never exsisted, & some character Billy Meier made up to sell some books is the real prophet. Likewise the idea that mohammad was the reincarnation of this so-called real jesus is totally bogus. Have you ever read any holy books? I've studied religion for yrs and your ideas are off the wall. Would the reincarnated self try to go to war with your past tribes? Seems highly unlikely. Also muslims think of all christians as infiedels. Not my idea of a glowing peaceful prophet. Again this site is just telling a huge amount of lies to move books and silly tapes. Highly shameful for Billy as our great prophet of the times.<br />
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So wait, people actually believe that Billy claimed to be a reincarnation of Jesus? O_o I honestly can't see how one could make the comparison. Isnt the fictional Jesus just a distortion?<br />
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See Contact Note 249 (attached) for more details on pyramids, copper is best while others made of other materials can be dangerous and harmful.<br />
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Well then, here's something regarding the pyramids: Someone who sells pyramids telephoned me recently. Of course I did not give him any details because of his line of work. But I also did not provide any details because pyramids are not as harmless as people on Earth generally think. It is a fact that copper is the only material which must be used for the meditation pyramids, because copper is capable of conducting electric energy, and does not generate those forces inside the pyramid that are dangerous, possibly even fatal, to human beings the way non-conductive materials do. Pyramids made from non-conductive material such as stone, man-made materials, glass, crystal and similar ones, all have a propensity within their interior that causes, at the correct location, cell tissue and other things to mummify and utensil cutting blades to change; living beings are killed by powerful forces that collect at the correct point due to the pyramid's shape. These powerful forces influence, change or kill anything located there. This does not happen with a conductive copper pyramid though. Depending on certain conditions, such as measurements, antenna and elevation, etc., some totally different, energizing forces develop within a copper pyramid. These forces then deflect the oscillations that strike the pyramid from the outside and develop into fatal forces. In order for this to happen, though, the copper pyramid must be completely enclosed and secured all the way around. For some time now a pyramid boom has been occurring in many countries and many types and sizes of pyramids are sold commercially. Isn't there a risk that dangerous things could result? <br />
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The things you mention have taken place for many years, so they are not just now beginning to occur. However, all the people who are, or were, harmed by such pyramids are not currently, nor will they ever be, aware that their ailments were caused by pyramids made from non-conductive materials. <br />
Pyramids are truly not as harmless as people on Earth assume. <br />
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...........................DAMN. lol j/k I was going to utilize aluminum, but copper. Billy could make a ton of money selling custom made pyramids straight from the SSSC. I can see it now farmer UFO contactee instant millionaire through copper pyramid business. I think the world might feel that they are trying to hypnotize us will all the pyramids sold. Just make sure there is no Giza underneath your pyramid and you all will be fine. :)<br />
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It seems the solution is simple then, curb overpopulation, end the death penalty, and don't report on violent crimes in the media.<br />
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Starting to sound like Europe would be the better country to live. Better a slightly damaged country, than no country...I guess? Although ideally we can avoid this too if we can.<br />
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== Sanjin said ... ==<br />
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The word sodomy was not translated here properly:<br />
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"In modern German, the word “Sodomie” has no connotation of anal or oral sex, and refers specifically to bestiality."<br />
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Homosexuals can and many do choose to procreate. I am a parent of two children, conceived with women, raised in a loving household in mixed community - males and females of diverse orientations. <br />
Love is the basis of any successful relationship, with self, other, the planet and universe...<br />
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According to contact report 219, the priesthood is partially to blame because of cellibacy. You must release that tension or distorted volcanic eruptions occur such as homosexuality. Don't join the priesthood. All the priests should take a lie detector test. I think the Pope would have a very hard time defending a majority of his priests. Nuns must face the same dilemma, time to search for nuns that need to be freed from there tension. :)j/k<br />
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I'm a bit confused by the wording on this particular page.<br />
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Even if a male homosexual bond were of a loving and kind nature, and not out of lust or hedonism, it would be deemed unnatural?<br />
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As a bisexual male and follower of Billy Meier's work, this saddens me.<br />
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Hi AS.<br />
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It would only be unnatural for one of you to change your nature surgically to have the ability to bear children. I have talked with Mariann Uehlinger about this and this is what I have found out:<br />
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The word homo-sexuality in itself is a contradictory word because of the meaning of the word sexuality in the German language. Not sure if you understand it but here is the German Wikipedia page for this:<br />
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Sexuality is defined in its strict biological sense as "the condition of (at least) two different reproductive types (sexes) of living creatures of the same kind who are capable to reproduce with the other type (sex)."<br />
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That's why "Homo-Sexualität" is unnatural, but relationships and attraction and sexual union between two men and two women is a natural occurance.<br />
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Its really hard to explain it in English, because the German words Sexualität is not the same as sexuality, and also Geschlecht is not the same as gender.<br />
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For example Geschlechtsverkehr means sexual intercourse, but word for word it is "gender-intercourse". It's basically impossible to translate it without falsifying the meaning, because the words refer to different things and when one tries to explain something with the two words a different meaning comes out than was meant originally.<br />
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I hope this makes sense. :)<br />
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Thanks Sanjin.<br />
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The whole thing is still pretty vague to me, but I think I understand the basic idea now.<br />
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So, hypothetically, if we lived far in the future, and my male partner and I decided to try to make life artificially through some sort of technological means or something like that, that's what would be unnatural?<br />
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Unless I'm interpreting it completely wrong. Also, the future thing is just an example. I couldn't think of a better way of wording it.<br />
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Homosexuality is confusion and chaotic at both the material and non-material realms which results in all cases except in rare cases between females, the extinction of such arrangements! There are cases where conception occurs between females due to some genetic influences, but I would assume it is not a natural way of conception and probably not a recommended method of ensuring the species will evolve properly or sustain its reproduction cycles.<br />
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It is not pro-creative because biologically speaking a human male which is positive and a human female which is negative are balanced once marriage or union is established, both are needed in order to Creationally evolve the material Beings to the next level of evolution until finally both merge in the Petale level.<br />
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Also, homosexuality causes confusion for the reincarnation process, experiences that contradict ones inherited or defined gender specific attributes be it male or female effects every living cell and thus determines in a sense, how the next personality "emerges" for the spirit within each individual.<br />
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The "feelings" between these individuals may be genuine and compassionate with sincere meanings, but I often wonder how it affects the former passed personalities that have evolved symetrically with its gender attributes in regards to the spirit in each? We know for a fact that personalities are keep separate in order to prevent confusion, but are not the stored experiences essential for the development of one's spirit because they are connected?<br />
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For example, if an embodied male (positive), now having female (negative) impulses, yet remain on the cellular level as male positive is rather, in my opinion (which is not set in stone, until otherwise proven likewise), rather not in harmony a contradiction of sorts, where this negative influences should be coming from a female gender specific source.<br />
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The same also applies for female-female (negative-negative) relationships, but that is my opinion and subject to open discussion.<br />
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Hawaiian, how did you come to the conclusion that homosexuality is confusion? I do not think that Creation was confused when it created it's natural laws which placed the prostate in human males there where it can be stimulated from anal intercourse. <br />
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I'm not advocating that there is no homosexuality which occurs due to confusion, which would be males that are naturally heterosexual, but develop a disposition to same-sex relationships due to degenerate thoughts. There are also cases which come from being sexually molested by the opposite sex which in turn makes the person develop a fear for the opposite sex.<br />
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[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:29, 4 September 2010 (UTC)Your statements regarding fear of the opposite sex due to abusive behavior falls outside of the main issue, but none-the-less could be delegated to sub-topic, which regardless is a result of degenerated Cause and Effect event. To continue this path of fear is still against creational laws of harmony between a physical male/female in order to maintain its evolutionary development. If not resolved in this life cycle, then perhaps in the next incarnation?<br />
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It is becoming a chore to verify my statements that I have posted to those that govern their responses with emotional rather than logical reasoning as the connections are derived utilizing the materials posted on this website. In which two are listed on the bottom and the 3rd requires one to extrapolate it logically using their minds to connect why in the material realms there is a separation between human males and females.<br />
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One has to logically reason from a point of view regarding energy flows, that males are generally positive in nature while females are negative. It is not to say females are negative, but the flow of energy completes the cycle between positive and negative otherwise the physical human race will cease to exist.<br />
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Thus, if one is a physical male and has sexual desires for another male, which by nature or creational laws an attribute “assigned” to a female, then therefore is it NOT a state of CONFUSION? I think on U-tube, Billy does attest to this notion?<br />
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http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Homosexuality_-_What_is_its_Cause%3F<br />
Degenerate sensory perceptions and self-created, anti-natural desires in perverse form, as well as inherent homophile selfishness, are interpreted as engendering a pseudo-homosexuality that is generated by one's own thoughts and fantasies, and which transgresses against the natural-creational laws and directives, and consequently constitutes an aberration. This form of homosexuality shows no relation whatsoever to the naturally occurring homosexuality that is against nature but genetically predetermined by nature. As a rule, the degenerate homosexuality, hence the pseudo-homosexuality that is self-created through thoughts and fantasies is paired with other self-generated sexual abnormalities and transgressions against the laws of nature, such as sodomy, masochism, sadism, and so forth. Homosexual men, by definition, cannot perform sexually procreative acts with one another. They can merely gratify themselves sexually, as is explained in the OM:<br />
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Thanks for the fast response. I still do not agree that homosexuality is necessarily confusion, unless it is developed due to confusion and "Degenerate sensory perceptions and self-created, anti-natural desires in perverse form", etc...<br />
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A good example of this would this degenerate behaviour of Afghan so called "men", who are not just pseudo-homosexual, but also pedophiles.<br />
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/28/INF21F2Q9H.DTL<br />
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I'm not sure how correct the last thing is you posted, since I do not have the original source to back it up and also since there are also other things stated on that page which are not true. <br />
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The answers you asked has already been addressed, but requires further analysis by one reading it for example, it’s part of the evolutionary process of Free Will. Each must find that “awareness” in order to proceed further in evolution.<br />
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1. The Plejarens have genetically eradicated such “benign and natural genetic disorder” through genetic manipulation. They know Creational laws and directives much more than Earth humans who are still struggling with the issues of homosexual and bi-sexual behaviors.<br />
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2. Ask this question, if homosexual or bi-sexual was Creational valid, then why do they not pro-create? (except in rare cases of women giving birth asexually, even though possible, it will never have succeeding offspring after 3 generations due to genetic disharmony)<br />
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3. This is a topic has already been addressed so I will not commit any more energy towards it since now the issue is to be resolved internally by those seeking to find the necessary acceptance, which none-the-less will provide the knowledge and experience for your spirit.<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 00:54, 5 September 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Neckel said ... ==<br />
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Salome all,<br />
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I want to take your attention especially to this sentence: "it means that homosexual men are guilty then, when they come together in such a way that makes them capable of giving birth in an unnatural and sacrilegious manner (for instance through genetic manipulation etc.), and then have sexual relationships for the purpose of procreating descendants by this means:" So in other words if you implant an uterus in a male human being, so that he becomes capable of creating offspring if he gets begotten by an other male....... I am sure some of you saw the movie where Arnold Schwarzenegger got pregnant ;)) :)) This creates turbulences in the balance and energy flow....... Natural "unnatural" homosexuality, whether from male to male, or from female to female in a natural way, can also be found in nature with various animals..... And in nature this is not the only "natürliche Unnatürlichkeit" that can be found...... Currently the book OM is refined by explaining some paragraphs. Especially in the book OM one has to think a lot because the language applied there is thousands or millions of years old = other life = other metaphors than we use today.<br />
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May wisdom and peace become your steady friends.<br />
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--[[User:Neckel|Neckel]] 14:55, 5 September 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Please reference the 2 U-tube interview of Billy by Randy Winters regarding the issue of homosexuality.<br />
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdWcqGZ_dxE&feature=related<br />
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Scroll to about the last minute of Billy Meier’s interview on U-tube where he describes what confusion in the current material life will do when one’s spirit re-incarnates the next time in the future. If one is not clear in his or her mind of his/her sexuality, then he or she will become a homosexual in the next incarnation. Here you have it straight from the 7th prophet, so deal with it and stop trying to “justify” your confusion with erroneous selfish thoughts, you are either a woman or a man not something else.<br />
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEBPNJt-ZYY&NR=1<br />
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Here is another video clip where Billy explains more on homosexuality and finding solutions to this problem, it is covered in the first minute.<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 06:14, 14 May 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Neckel said ... ==<br />
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Hi Hawaiian,<br />
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I know these videos, thanks. You apparently don't know much about reincarnation. Because of this confusion in sexuality in the actual life, your psyche will be affected in the next life, and then your psyche and mentalblock will really not know "what sex" it is, even it is biologically clear. Homosexuality is a reality, have you already talked to one ? What concerns animals: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals<br />
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Homosexuality appears also on planets where there is no overpopulation. The healing process mentionned by Billy takes a whole life, you will and cannot change this in the actual life of that person, it will be only in the next incarnation or the one after the next one when it will be tangled out, and also the sexual orientation of everyone is a pure private matter, and none of our business. Pedophilia on the other hand, is another case and should be heavily punished......<br />
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Further reading on Homosexuality: http://www.figu.org/ch/themen/Homosexualit%C3%A4t<br />
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Salome<br />
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--[[User:Neckel|Neckel]] 06:44, 14 May 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Moonwalker said ... ==<br />
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I am attracted to women because all my experiences with men have been negative, begining with my physically and mentally, controlling father.<br />
I don't mean to sound offensive but the following words are my feelings regarding men on this earth.<br />
Since the begining of time the male gender has been responsible for most if not all of the wars, rapes, brutality, oppression and ignorance because all most men think about is their dicks and their egos.<br />
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Janet<br />
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== Moonwalker said ... ==<br />
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Men and women have to have some control of their sex drives. Everything seems to be about sex. Grow up and get over it and put your dicks back in your pants. The world is in trouble and we need to step up to the plate. Stop thinking about your selfish urges and stop the bull shit called life on this earth. <br />
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== Ufofacts said ... ==<br />
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The views here about homosexuality are quite disturbing and have a smell of hate and aggression.<br />
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I am not homosexual, I am a man who finds women attractive ...... because of my genes and my psyche.<br />
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I have a good female friend who's sister is lesbian and also to other women where I work are also lesbian. They are nice people who do not attack us hetrosexuals. So why do us hetrosexuals think it is right and just to attack them.<br />
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I personally except that homosexuality is a natural process through the genes of a human being and/or the confussion of one psyche in regard to not knowing what sex actually is. <br />
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Even on Erra the Plejaren have homosexual men and women and they are more evoled then us. This should bring to your thoughts that regardless of the spiritual/conscious level of a human being homosexuality will naturally happen.<br />
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Just my thoughts, views<br />
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--[[User:Ufofacts|Stephen Moore (User &quot;Ufofacts&quot;)]] 13:08, 14 May 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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How can one scientifically relate the animal environment to the human species since reference to a rather open public source like Wiliki is NOT subjected to scientific scrutilization? And besides this study, as in ALL animal studies DO NOT factor in the most important parameters of human evolution which is the psyche or spiritual essence in addition that NONE of these studies factor in the “Placebo” effect, because simply speaking animals DO NOT posses these traits so how can you reference this article to human interaction which in this case refers to HUMAN Homosexuality?<br />
Neckel, you are just letting your emotions get the better of your logic and Billy already covers the negative consequences of homosexual “confusion” that will affect the next incarnation of that particular spirit in question, seems like you never viewed the video and would rather shoot you mouth off anyway.<br />
I don’t need to answer your immature question on whether I’ve interacted with homosexual individuals which I do. Their confusion is not my problem so long as they don’t try to push their agendas on others like gay rights or marriage benefits. Just look at the following studies to indicate the magnitude of gay men and health issues that are already taxing the medical condition on a worldwide basis not to mention other exotic diseases being formulated by “un-natural” sex acts utilizing the human waste tract to derive sexual gratification because of what Billy mention as “sick in the mind”?<br />
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http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf<br />
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Now to another posting implying just because the Plejarens are more spiritually evolved and have homosexuality in their mists DOES NOT validate that premises just because of the former. They are still a long way to being purely spiritual and are still learning as we speak. As a matter of fact, they could also learn a few pointers from us Earthly degenerates, because they lack the necessary EXPERIENCE we have and continue to go through.<br />
Lastly, one human female made some comments about her negative encounters of men in her life as the reason why she prefers women. That’s her prerogative, I would agree that some guys are real pricks and have met my share of these egoistic amatons bent on stupidity one-track minded idiocracity that no drug rehabitational method will ever produce any satisfactory results!<br />
However not all fall into this category and I apologize for my fellow jerk offs for your current mindset encounters. My former girl friend had similar experiences like yourself, ended up in the hospital for 6 months with a nervous breakdown by a her male boyfriend who dumped her after 3 years on the same night he got married to his S.O. She too became a lesbian and wanted to continue our relationship which I found out later but wanted to keep a threesome with her lesbian psychiatrist which I could not handle because of my studies at the university. We parted ways and still are friends. <br />
Actually come to think about it, it may be advanteous because then I won’t be burdened with feminine emotional issues, she could get that release from her female partner. Females don’t know how difficult it is for guys to respond in ways they seem so natural to express and the primary reason why we need them.<br />
The following citation has some reference to problematic adolescent male elephants and human males that also need to have some hammer hung over their heads to keep them in line and out of trouble. It is relevant to Earthly human males especially the one responsible for much evil and destruction.<br />
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http://miltonconservative.blogspot.com/2011/01/tale-of-adolescent-elephant-rampage.html<br />
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Enough said and probably people will continue to argue on this subject which I will no longer invest any more energy and got better things to endeavor in because frankly speaking Homosexuality in not my problem so why should it be yours? There are more than enough information given on this website to make a logical decision and hopefully one will not negatively affect their next incarnation with confusion.<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 03:52, 15 May 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Carsch said ... ==<br />
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What was not mentioned and is one of the most important thing here is that homosexuality may be a choice (already made in Consciousness) to experience that aspect of life.<br />
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== Carsch said ... ==<br />
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1. <i> 1. The Plejarens have genetically eradicated such “benign and natural genetic disorder” through genetic manipulation. They know Creational laws and directives much more than Earth humans who are still struggling with the issues of homosexual and bi-sexual behaviors.</i> <br />
Hawaiian, my suggestion is to not believe and accept everything you’re told, mostly because it’s coming from a source who appears to be more knowledgeable than you are. Besides, the information could be just a distortion from Billy Meier himself. By the way, homosexuality is not some kind of disorder. Creation works in perfect order, in perfect balance and harmony – and this is even when we’re not seeing that balance, that order and harmony.<br />
2. <i>2. Ask this question, if homosexual or bi-sexual was Creational valid, then why do they not pro-create? (except in rare cases of women giving birth asexually, even though possible, it will never have succeeding offspring after 3 generations due to genetic disharmony) </i><br />
But who says that this or that has to be Creational valid? Well, and who decides what’s Creational valid? The Plejarens? Billy Meir? Something out there that is not already within me that i know not about? :) <br />
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--[[User:Carsch|Carsch]] 17:37, 9 July 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Carsch said ... ==<br />
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<i> 1. The Plejarens have genetically eradicated such “benign and natural genetic disorder” through genetic manipulation. They know Creational laws and directives much more than Earth humans who are still struggling with the issues of homosexual and bi-sexual behaviors.</i> <br />
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Hawaiian, my suggestion is to not believe and accept everything you’re told, mostly because it’s coming from a source who appears to be more knowledgeable than you are. Besides, the information could be just a distortion from Billy Meier himself. By the way, homosexuality is not some kind of disorder. Creation works in perfect order, in perfect balance and harmony – and this is even when we’re not seeing that balance, that order and harmony.<br />
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<i> 2. Ask this question, if homosexual or bi-sexual was Creational valid, then why do they not pro-create? (except in rare cases of women giving birth asexually, even though possible, it will never have succeeding offspring after 3 generations due to genetic disharmony) </i><br />
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But who says that this or that has to be Creational valid? Well, and who decides what’s Creational valid? The Plejarens? Billy Meir? Something out there that is not already within me that i know not about? :)<br />
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--[[User:Carsch|Carsch]] 17:39, 9 July 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Carsch,<br />
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Don’t take my comments out of context to “suit” your agenda assuming I have some “belief” in this subject of homosexuality or other matters as well. Belief is a term I try in earnest to avoid and replace it either with “assume” or aware. As a matter of fact, I did post recently my views on the subject of belief or believing which is a stagnation of creational endeavor. For your as well as other’s reference, I’ll post it again at the end of this post.<br />
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Now, regarding your comments, which is posted here; “Besides, the information could be just a distortion from Billy Meier himself. By the way, homosexuality is not some kind of disorder.” YOUR QUOTE<br />
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One has to logically analyze why there are differences between a male XY and female XX genetic attributes along with its prospective psyche that generates a difference of electrical charge, since humans are electrical/magnetic in nature. Males having a slightly more positive characteristic, while females more robust negative charge. It is NOT to suggest females are negative in any sense, but as in electronics the flow of electrons goes from the negative to positive, BUT the flow of current goes from positive to negative.<br />
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Thus in the material being as well as in the spiritual Being up to the Petale level where the male and female are merged as one, this flow of energy is maintained in order to ensure both sexes are in harmony and continue to evolve as well as process the energy in its respective environments.<br />
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However, if a male becomes a homosexual, “his” thinking or psyche becomes female oriented, it causes confusion for the spirit because the energy interchange is reversed. The same goes for lesbian activity; you are either a male or female and not both and are bad for the psyche, which will cause more confusion in the incarnation process as well.<br />
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Billy has explained this homosexuality in detail which I posted somewhere on this site, he also mentioned the negative effects of human male dancing.<br />
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Now to the other quote you have made about creation being PERFECT, which is FALSE, another ABSOLUTE terminology you use because it appears you are stuck on your EGO to realize that creation is RELATIVELY perfect, a huge difference because it allows creation to continue to evolve without any limitations. To “believe” that creation is “perfect” is to stagnate its evolution. <br />
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Now, lets look at the # 2, MINE “2. Ask this question, if homosexual or bi-sexual was Creational valid, then why do they not pro-create? (Except in rare cases of women giving birth asexually, even though possible, it will never have succeeding offspring after 3 generations due to genetic disharmony)<br />
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YOURS: “But who says that this or that has to be Creational valid? Well, and who decides what’s Creational valid? The Plejarens? Billy Meir? Something out there that is not already within me that I know not about? :) <br />
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Why are you looking for something "out there" when the answers are all within ourselves? Again, you are not utilizing common sense, I did not state any directive, but only ask one to think logically on the reasons why homosexuality will NEVER by itself pro-create or more accurately perpetuate the human species. It is NOT being directed at Billy, the Plejarens or Creation itself which you imply, it is just a biological fact that a material human being need to accept their genetic makeup and live accordingly to their respective attributes being either a male or female and not something in between, in order to evolve further in accordance to the energy exchange factors listed previously.<br />
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BELIEF or BELIEVING<br />
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Belief or the act of believing is a stagnation of evolutionary Awareness; it is an ABSOLUTE frame of thought and/or mind that prevents further growth of one’s Consciousness. History has proven time again how the insanity of beliefs has brought utter destruction for those believing in spite of the contrary proving otherwise.<br />
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Take for instance the madness of the Giza Intelligences, believing they could still conquer the Earth in spite of many being aged nearing their end of life, but continue down the path of self-destruction and insanity, just like their counterparts in another part of the DERN universe who constructed that doomsday device which was disarmed by the Plejarens. They too believed in their insane madness of the belief they would prevail over benevolent measures and if not, then do as much destruction as possible.<br />
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Then take the military samurai leadership of Japan during the last days of WWII, who still harbored beliefs they could prevail in spite of the two atomic blasts and being surrounded by overwhelming military forces, some committed suicide instead of accepting defeat and learning there are better ways of evolution than war. The same goes to religious beliefs and we can only reference the crazy Islamic extremists who claim suicide bombing is right as well as other religions promoting such ideas.<br />
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Belief or believing is dangerous and should be replaced with a more harmonic method of Awareness, at least in being aware, one still has the option(s) of finding new ways to evolve and keeping the original concept as reference to build upon rather than being “stuck” on some type of belief system which often “forces” the environment to conform to its “reality” which often leads to insanity and destruction.<br />
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If one still “believes” in their own agenda of this or other topics, then it is no point in myself wasting my time and energy for those “stuck on stupid” with their belief EGO. I won’t even bother to respond any further because more than enough have been stated for logical consumption.<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:45, 9 July 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Carsch said ... ==<br />
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<i>Thus in the material being as well as in the spiritual Being up to the Petale level where the male and female are merged as one, this flow of energy is maintained in order to ensure both sexes are in harmony and continue to evolve as well as process the energy in its respective environments. <br />
However, if a male becomes a homosexual, “his” thinking or psyche becomes female oriented, it causes confusion for the spirit because the energy interchange is reversed. The same goes for lesbian activity; you are either a male or female and not both and are bad for the psyche, which will cause more confusion in the incarnation process as well. </i><br />
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Hawaiin, do you understand that all of creation is choice, and that there is no wrong and right choices? Do you also understand that whenever you start dictating what is and what is not, you are already creating your own limitations and thus limit yourself in your very expression and experiences, and to some point make your experience more difficult for you (which on the same note, is still your choice to make it difficult for you)? <br />
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<i>Billy has explained this homosexuality in detail which I posted somewhere on this site, he also mentioned the negative effects of human male dancing. </i><br />
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And because he said those things, does it mean you (and others) have to believe him? I read what he said about male dancing, and i must say, that made me laugh.....cause it was just non sense. You know, a man can have great powers and abilities and yet be full of it, or just plainly ignorant when it comes to other matters. <br />
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<i>Now to the other quote you have made about creation being PERFECT, which is FALSE, </i> <br />
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So, are you saying that there is something wrong with the way creation, or consciousness is?<br />
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<i>another ABSOLUTE terminology you use because it appears you are stuck on your EGO to realize that creation is RELATIVELY perfect, a huge difference because it allows creation to continue to evolve without any limitations. </i><br />
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Ok, i’m a bit puzzled here cause i personally believe that creation is continually evolving and without limitations. Is this what you are also saying here?<br />
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<i>To “believe” that creation is “perfect” is to stagnate its evolution.</i><br />
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Why would it stagnate its evolution? A thing can be perfect and yet continue to expand (or evolve) beyond what it already is. Yet because it continues to expand does not mean it is imperfect, or not perfect.<br />
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<i>Again, you are not utilizing common sense, I did not state any directive, but only ask one to think logically on the reasons why homosexuality will NEVER by itself pro-create or more accurately perpetuate the human species. </i><br />
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Well, and would it matter if it does not perpetuate the human species? There are those who are no homosexuals who can help perpetuate the human species, if that’s an issue, no?<br />
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<i>It is NOT being directed at Billy, the Plejarens or Creation itself which you imply, it is just a biological fact that a material human being need to accept their genetic makeup and live accordingly to their respective attributes being either a male or female and not something in between, in order to evolve further in accordance to the energy exchange factors listed previously. </i><br />
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And, of course, that is your belief and perception of ‘what needs be’ in order for one to evolve. Others might have different views and opinion on the subject. :)<br />
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<i>Belief or the act of believing is a stagnation of evolutionary Awareness; it is an ABSOLUTE frame of thought and/or mind that prevents further growth of one’s Consciousness. </i><br />
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Yet we’ve all chosen to experience with our beliefs for the very purpose of expanding. Needless to say, we all hold some kind of belief. Even the Pledians hold their own beliefs, as i can tell.<br />
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<i>Belief or believing is dangerous and should be replaced with a more harmonic method of Awareness, at least in being aware, </i><br />
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I agree that it can be replaced with a more harmonic method, however not all beliefs are bad, dangerous or limiting.<br />
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<i>If one still “believes” in their own agenda of this or other topics, then it is no point in myself wasting my time and energy for those “stuck on stupid” with their belief EGO. I won’t even bother to respond any further because more than enough have been stated for logical consumption. </i><br />
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It’s a choice. :)<br />
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--[[User:Carsch|Carsch]] 23:59, 9 July 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Another thing you may want to think about is how overpopulation is making spirit forms come back too early. So they may not have gone through the process of changing from female to male or male to female, so in these cases, choice may not have anything to do with it?<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 04:56, 10 July 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Carsch,<br />
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Your biggest problem is YOURSELF, yet you won't admit it...blinded by you EGO, just like many before you and many more after you, all stuck on stupid.<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 05:07, 10 July 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Carsch said ... ==<br />
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Sheila, once you understand that you are your own creator, that you are ONE with god (or Creation), that you create every single aspect of your reality, you will then understand that nothing, and absolutely nothing, is left to circumstances. Overpopulation has nothing to do with anything. In fact, overpopulation is nothing but a myth and is becoming a belief among many.<br />
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--[[User:Carsch|Carsch]] 07:10, 10 July 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Carsch said ... ==<br />
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Hawaiian, everyone’s biggest problem, if any, is but themselves. :)<br />
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--[[User:Carsch|Carsch]] 07:12, 10 July 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Carsch said ... ==<br />
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Sheila, in truth our planet can accommodate more people than we already have. But because we do not manage our resources efficiently, we generate the mass belief that we have overpopulated our planet. It is not necessarily a question of over population. It is more a question of resource management.<br />
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--[[User:Carsch|Carsch]] 07:26, 10 July 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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No Carsch, it does have to do with overpopulation, over 8 billion now, where will it end? After we are done killing all the animals to make room for more humans (I already see this happening now, so it can only get worse)? Overpopulation is a fact and not a myth like you claim, must be the leftover catholic way of thinking you have. We need to stop multiplying, it really is that simple. Proper management of resources, lol. Who the heck are you trying to fool. They have all been exploited and you have no say what these corporations do with the resources. Are you planning on buying out haliburton, just so you can have a say on how they are used?<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 04:56, 11 July 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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Education is important and with our overpopulation schools are losing quality teachers and not enough room for all students. That is but one simple way to gauge intelligence of leadership and that is not very well defined right now. :)<br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 08:36, 11 July 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Carsch said ... ==<br />
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Overpopulation is a fact only because we are being taught to believe it as a fact. But then you’re probably thinking of the cities, cause that is what’s overpopulated. Hey, but you believe in what you want, right? :) <br />
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--[[User:Carsch|Carsch]] 06:26, 13 July 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Carsch said ... ==<br />
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Mark, our leaders aren't efficient people, and when they screw up, they'll only tell you what they see from their limited perspectives. And if we all believe them, we'll continue to be as screwed as they make things and want you to believe them. Hey, life goes on. ;)<br />
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--[[User:Carsch|Carsch]] 06:29, 13 July 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Hi Carsch, they are currently not teaching about overpopulation in schools (just this fact alone speaks volumes). So where am I getting this information? Like I said from the huge culling of animals when they encroach on civilization. Just recently in BC a woman died because of a suspected bear attack. They killed four black bears before testing which one could be the culprit. Cities of millions of people are a factor when you consider where that city is located (on a fault line, by a volcano). Dams and the displacement of those huge volumes of water is also major.<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 18:26, 13 July 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Just two questions,<br />
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1. Are you Carsch a homosexual? If yes, than your "answers" explain themselves without addressing any issues brought forth.<br />
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2. Why has that excellent report on Homosexuality done by Marianne Uehlinger been removed from this website so all can reference it for their own consumption? She of all persons is called by the Plejarens as the "Conscientious One" because of her ancient ties to this mission and her contributions are still very important, yet this report is missing?<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 00:15, 22 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Hawaiian which report, please?<br />
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--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 21:06, 22 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Jamesum,<br />
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Sorry, I made couple hardcopies of Marianne Uehlinger Mondria’s article on Homosexuality which was downloaded either from this website or another, I don’t recall off hand. But I definitely know I have more than one hardcopy, which unfortunately is stored in some boxes anticipating my move to another location.<br />
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If you can’t get it from her directly, then I’ll converted it in Pdf format and send it to you. It’s unfortunate not being able to quote some of her notes since even the Plejarens speak highly of her and I agree on her opinion about homosexuality, but cannot at the moment quote her words on some points that I have posted.<br />
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Billy,<br />
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Who was Marianne Uehlinger at the time of the great oaths and determinations 13,500 years ago, and what task or function does she have today?<br />
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114. Her name at that time was XANDAALA, which means “The Conscientious One.<br />
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115. At that time, as a former personality, she wasn’t, and also isn’t today, integrated into the group of the fallible ones and, thus, also isn’t a part of the Codex.<br />
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121. Her worth of collection and recognition is higher than what is often the case with the group members, which is why the necessary evolution for Marianne cannot be furnished on the group’s side<br />
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http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_235<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 00:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sarah said ... ==<br />
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Unfortunatly,...for short time? First of all how I choose to live and do stuff with its totally a private matter. <br />
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And just because genetic alteration of humans to get rid of homosexuality has been done, doesn't necessarily make the action to do so ethical or natural. <br />
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Have you totally missed the whole "Live, and let live" part Hawaiian? <br />
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Besides, actually having people like us may actually help reduce the rising population number. <br />
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More "sex acts" between people that can't reproduce could actually lower it pretty quickly.<br />
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--[[User:Sarah|Sarah]] 06:34, 25 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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What is the High German's term for "Arahat Athersata"?<br />
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== Zameen said ... ==<br />
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Thanks again Mr. Meier. I'm constantly overwhelmed with gratitude and humility each time I think of you sir! May your next consecutive lives be filled with the love, grace, and understanding that you, and this mission so desperately deserve.<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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There appears to be some time/space & dimension connection between the Peace Meditation, which was first spoken on Earth (according to Henock’s arrival around 389,000 years ago), which is the same time period when the Lyrian and Vegan wars started. However there needs to be a correction whether this date or the one listed under the Peace Meditation which is 289,000 years ago 100,000 years later than Henok’s arrival on Earth.<br />
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But never-the-less I think both are related including 13,500 years ago when Henoch was assigned as the first prophet on Earth.<br />
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http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Prophets<br />
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Since the numerical data suggests that obviously some of the spirits have incarnated into material human beings that may still be on Earth, definitely on Erra and other planets OR even at the half physical-spiritual stages as the High Council. Therefore if that is the case, then there are direct spiritual links amongst these humans both Earthly and ET’s as well.<br />
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Even so, there are in-direct connections because during their respective times while on Earth when this language was openly spoken by Henok’s peoples it never lost is true meaning and values. Thus when it is again spoken today here on Earth its past time and dimension are further inter-connected with not only Earthly human beings, but also those of ET origins as well. <br />
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Thoughts and emotions are energies that are invoked by both the spoken or unspoken words. Although I do admit sometimes sitting there for 20 minutes twice a day Saturday and Sunday can be boring, wish the High Council or Plejarens could make it a little more entertaining?<br />
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In Sanskrit "arahat" means "level" or "rank". So I guess "arahat athersata" should be translated as "athersata level" or "athersata group".<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 09:14, 9 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sarah said ... ==<br />
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What if your not living in an area where you can easily go to a peace meditation, without walking there for a thousand or so miles? Can it be done at home?<br />
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--[[User:Sarah|Sarah]] 05:07, 25 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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Thanks, this was a great help in aiding many to understand spiritual evolution including myself. I find it interesting about the organic ship and it having AI that can think and respond telepathically. This possibly could be a bonding with ship and the person that has possession of that ship. I wonder if the ship has a mind of it's own or if it has built in instructional AI geared more towards it's pilot. Very interesting. I shall now go on about and try to fulfill these stages until I get to the final boss stage. :) j/k <br />
In reality the challenge is not surrouding us, rather it is in our own BEING that is developing by the choices we make and how it affects our future development as a whole until we all reach that Absolutum and become one with Creation. Sounds great, sign me up. <br />
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== newinitiation said ... ==<br />
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So if a murderer like the Bushes and so many like-minded ilks of this sort doesn't feel any guilt for the destruction of so many people through their monstrous policies then this equates with lessons learnt given how guilt free they are.<br />
Then people who don't necessarily feel any guilt for killing people should continue to kill people because they don't feel any guilt and don't suffer any remorse from them according to the rationale of how the creative law works.<br />
And if people aren't harangued by their misdeeds, according to this article, the necessary lessons are learnt and thus they in their next life will not repeat the offense.<br />
Something just doesn't make sense about this or is it my misinterpretation.<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I understand Bush Jr. position, remember the past when there were mighty leaders and they had fathers that had a lot of power over the will of there sons. This might have been the same case. Bush Jr. could have chosen is own path but chose to try and please his father in turn becoming his father extended through battles fought. Hopefully future generations of the Bush kin can right there wrongs and make a better future for us all with there vast reach within there party. <br />
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So gracious and generous are the Plejaren people to have troubled themselves to bring us this information and enlightenment of the truth from across the cosmos! thanks guys :) send ERRA my love and best regards. perhaps somehow,someway i will one day be able to visit ERRA and become aquainted with its nature and animal life. biology fascinates me<br />
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== Sarah said ... ==<br />
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I was wondering, I were suppose to just get the jist, or memorize it word for word?<br />
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--[[User:Sarah|Sarah]] 23:31, 4 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I would love a study group in downtown Chicago, Illinois (IL) USA! Anyone else??<br />
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== Sarah said ... ==<br />
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Are there any known study groups in the United States?<br />
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--[[User:Sarah|Sarah]] 17:56, 2 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== behzad said ... ==<br />
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But this way of Plejaren's contact with individual have not brought any success so far. As we see clearly in today's religions as result of these individual contacts.<br />
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can someone further explain this "executed studies in all spheres for decades?"<br />
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can someone further explain this "executed studies in all spheres for decades?"<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I think it's a seniority thing. :) j/k I'm sure many raised there hands to come back and get shot at 17 times, eluding dangers at every corner, dodging earth babes in tents while kissing them all, to save mankind from themselves. They did send 7 prophets, I wonder if since Billy came back 4 times he came back a prophet all 4 times or was he a top secret commoner among the people. HMMMMMMMMMMMMM<br />
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Hi there, I' m a new comer to your website. First of all, sorry for my poor English. I found you after I heard a local(Hong Kong) radio program. Can we (human being on earth) live more than 100 years, even though we got sick if we reach that spiritual level. I asked this because my father who is only 73yr-old, still lying the bed after a chest surgery and can he survive if he reach that spiritual level(4-5 level)? I'd just wondered why "they" contact western people mainly, and ignore eastern people? Is it the problem of language? <br />
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There is only 1 being that I know of that can live more than 100 years and Gilgamesh is not from Earth lucky guy gets to enjoy Earth's incredibly slow development into spiritual capability. :) I think it has something to do with our overall build or body makeup and structure. I have seen that some have lived up to the 120 year old age. I don't understand the 2nd part where if your 73 year old father reaches a certain point he will evolve somehow? I think that level is far away from what we are currently at. We are at the beginning stages although we have been around for many possible lifetimes. The faster we use logic and reason and apply it to everything we do and who we are then we move up I think. They mainly only contact western people with cowboy names. It's a top secret thing. j/k Billy is the only person that has the spiritual level on Earth that can communicate with them through his special ability. I bet ordering takeout is a breeze on there home planets. <br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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What the Plejarens mean by that statement “contact a person who has executed studies in all spheres for decades?" Is a person that has demonstrated complete mastery of both his external and internal experiences/knowledge dealing with all religions and not contaminated by established educational approaches, but is sincere in his quest for universal truth found in Creational attributes. The only such person that fulfills such a requirement currently is BEAM.<br />
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However, there were others the Plejaren attempted and did contact for various reasons, such as Gilgamesh who is not of Earth origin and telepathy oriented towards former JHWH currently incarnated individuals (which includes Billy). In all cases these individuals have displayed a much higher evolutionary makeup than most, but that does not mean all others are “at the end of the bus”. One has to prove their worth which can be done through hard discipline and work.<br />
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Now, for the other question regarding the present day Earth human limited life cycle of 100 years is the result of the Creator Overlord’s manipulation of a warrior human race they created a long time ago who fled to Earth, Mars and Malona with some benevolent turned malevolent ET’s. <br />
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Their ageing genes was altered from 350-450 years to 100 years and during many episodes of migrations of other ET’s to Earth who along with the aboriginals, inter-breed and now practically everyone on Earth has this manipulated ageing gene in them. There were attempts to solve this discrepancy by introducing humans that had a normal life span of 1007 years which were the white, red and brown races, but they too interbred with the damaged ageing ones.<br />
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However there are two ways to render this discrepancy, one is through direct technological intervention by scientists to switch off this ageing gene and the other more laboriously time consuming method is through proper meditation, living in accordance to Creational directives, proper diet/environment, population control and existing without greed, power-lust.<br />
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The bottom is an interesting topic, compliments of Ken during one of many Sat-Sun online voice/text forums held at this website. Maybe this Chinese man did not get contaminated or something special happened?<br />
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Click on Main Page Billy Meier, then scroll down about midway to “Future of Mankind Chat Rooms”, then either click on IRC or IRC/Voice links to hookup with anyone who may be online OR to participate on the weekend forums, click on “Scheduled Weekend Chat Room Meeting”<br />
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http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/li-ching-yuen-the-amazing-250-year-old-man/<br />
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FYI, I once encountered a very distraught female from Peru who didn’t understand why her pet rabbits all ran away from her when she came out to bring in the laundry on the lines as the rains started falling. Told her to search for the different color aura that indicates certain moods or frequency that animals can “see” emanating from humans as well as other animals. Thus was apparent she was under stress and her aura at that time was probably the reason why those rabbits head for the hills. She was quite happy to know that, thanks to Billy and the Plejarens…ha ha!<br />
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So you never know who might be of assistance?<br />
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Hi Apollosan, currently on this planet everyones physical body dies, it is the spirit which lives on to be reincarnated into a new body, with no memory of the former life. <br />
I think geneticists hold the key to extending our lives by reversing the aging gene. As far as I know, this hasn't happened yet. <br />
The "problem" of only one contact person is actually a blessing. If you ever told someone something and by the time it got through 6 people and that 6th person told you what you originally said, it would not be the same as what you first said. I think that is the reason there is only one contact person.<br />
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"1. We get in contact with an individual from Earth only on condition that the person has executed studies in all spheres for decades.<br />
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2. We can contact individuals from Earth only if the necessary spiritual prerequisites are present.<br />
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3. We can get in contact with an individual from Earth only if that person has progressed so far in his development that he is able to work out and recognize the basic truth in the truth without assistance, and without considering any statements by other people or any writings."<br />
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First of all I want you to know that I highly respect you and all members of the Galactic Federation as well as all other non-aggressive ETs.<br />
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However I have to give you the following feedback:<br />
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How spiritual is it to require any person to be an expert on multiple scientific disciplines at the same time in order to be worthy enough to have contact with ETs!?<br />
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Look: I have not studied any spiritual teachings that intensively long - mainly because I'm just 25 years old yet - but still I can tell you that such exclusive selection of contacts is by guarantee NOT about spirituality!<br />
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Even worse: That reasoning remembers me on some sad social misconceptions here on Earth that is co-responsible for many if not most of our current problems: Elitism...<br />
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I hope that provokes some thoughts on the side of the GFL, too...<br />
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So I would highly appreciate it if you would tell Semjase about my thoughts...<br />
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I would advise not to literally interpretate Semjase’s statements from an Earthly prospective, but to realize that the Plejarens are establishing the required pre-requisites for direct contacts based on the frequency levels that are comparable to their level(s) of comprehension. In other words any contactee should have the necessary ability to interchange on a number of topics in regards to both past, present and future factors that are critical to emerging situational interchanges between both parties. You will notice in many personal contact reports how both and as the number grows, actually the Plejarens appear to be learning more from Billy as well as from themselves often adjusting to his advice.<br />
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"1. We get in contact with an individual from Earth only on condition that the person has executed studies in all spheres for decades.<br />
(What she meant by “all spheres for decades” can be translated, as a person who is “aware” of the intricate connections of many concepts and ideas including some yet to be discovered or old ones that could have been improved on. Often it takes one decades to develop this mindset or rather an open mind in accepting many/all points of view without bias or limitations of any established beliefs that restrict evolutionary progression or goes against creational attributes. It is not necessary to have a seniority of decades, but more so an “evolved mind” capable of assimilating emerging ideas of creativity. “An old person is not necessary a wise one, but a wise one can certainly be a young one none-the-less)<br />
2. We can contact individuals from Earth only if the necessary spiritual prerequisites are present. <br />
(Ahh, this is very true in nature, a person that is uncorrupted, unegolistical, slightly positive balanced with an open mind as in “meditation with an open mind”, unrestrained by self, mission oriented and other matters as described in the Spiritual teaching and OM)<br />
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3. We can get in contact with an individual from Earth only if that person has progressed so far in his development that he is able to work out and recognize the basic truth in the truth without assistance, and without considering any statements by other people or any writings." <br />
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(Basically describing a person that is consciously aware of making new connections from logical reasoning without depending on other’s statements or writings, although it is permissible to utilize such concepts and ideas to “build” upon another layer of foundation that supports such and further expands on its true meaning to ensure that the spiritual as well as other matters of concern in regards to compassion and humanity are raised into higher frequency levels so that all may learn and evolve further without depending on “established” directives which in a sense is a form of stagnation and the reason why Semjase says, “Creation is RELATIVELY perfect”.<br />
To say “Creation is Perfect” is to say it does not need to evolve further which contradicts the entire process of Creation itself.)<br />
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And yes, there has been interferences from both Earthly and ET's and still continue to this day. But once one has established the necessary Conscious awareness these interferences will have less effect on your psyche and you will be able to connect to much higher frequency levels where some are almost equal to the Plejarens themselves so direct contact will not be necessary as much as direct connections via spiritual evolution will certainly have.<br />
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very reasonable explanation, one only has to think of old scifi movies with armed people coming to greet visitors. They cannot be blamed its just common sense.<br />
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Honestly, if the thing about the memory of them being erased were true, wouldn't I not remember seeing a blonde woman in my early teens? O_o<br />
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