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== david said ... ==<br />
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i wondered why he would take a photo of tv screen when he had so much other undeniable evidence, this seems like an unlikely but rational explanation as it would be seem very out of character 2 forge the photo, ive read alot of know it all debunkers on youtube and beyond with there silly ''rational'' explanation, the miniture trees etc! i get angry at people like that but i guess they are on there on path. i just dont know why they go to the bother if they rnt interested!<br />
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--david 05:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== zameen said ... ==<br />
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People go to such lengths to cover up and or try to falsify the truth in order to keep profit streams alive. A disgusting practice but a reality nonetheless<br />
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--zameen 23:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== TCFelon said ... ==<br />
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Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics. and other unique proofs and have them circulate safely around the world as, Billy, his associates, on ground and above and I would like.. I guess I inadvertently lied to a few of my friends about some of the photos. I hope one day soon we ,(all of us around the world) can get together without any uncomfortable thoughts/feelings of deceit or any prejudged feelings of hate, jealously and anger towards next man 'and or entity.' Peace/Wisdom/Love/Truth. To the Plejaren Fed. and their wonderful associates. <br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I agree TCFelon but if they had to capture everybody who falsifies Billy's work and those that lack sincerity and genuineness it would probably take all eternity. They will probably only stop the most heinous pretenders. :) The photos are rather interesting because they say that Asket and Nera are from another universe thus they don't mind there photos being here. Due to the creativity and level of lowness some beings can reach they altered it so they are dancers on a talk show. That calls for a Billy uppercut to the nose. j/k<br />
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--Mark 22:28, 29 March 2010 (BST)<br />
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== tom said ... ==<br />
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Próby zamachów na Zycie Billego świadczą o niczym innym tylko o tym, że mówi on prawdę. To samo tyczy sie zafalszowywania jego zdjęć. <br />
Ci którzy znają temat szaraków i replitalian wiedzą kto to są "ludzie" w czerni... im najmniej zależy na poznaniu przez ludzi prawdy, prawdy, która przecież wyzwala, wyzwala z więzów zniewolenia..<br />
Meier od samego początku, jak zapoznałem się z jego osobą, wyzwala we mnie zaufanie... Jest zupełnie niepodobnym do tych co gonią za władzą i towarzyszącą jej ułudą pieniądza. Zna wiele praw duchowych i sam żyje wedle nich, więc mało prawdopodobne jest to, że próbowałby robić jakiekolwiek fałszerstwa, a tym bardziej, jak niektóre źródła jemu zarzucają, w celu zdobycia sławy lub majątku.<br />
Bardziej mają powody ku temu ci, którzy obawiają się zaistnienia tych praw w ludzkich sercach i umysłach, bo to rujnuje ich starania o zniewolenie gatunku ludzkiego.<br />
Więcej niczego chyba nie trzeba tu dodawać. Przynajmniej ode mnie to wszystko.<br />
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--tom 15:15, 11 April 2010 (BST)<br />
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== tom said ... ==<br />
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tom ist from Poland ;) <br />
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--tom 15:18, 11 April 2010 (BST)<br />
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== human being said ... ==<br />
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BEAM is awesome, thank you ! controlledfollymaker@gmail.com<br />
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--human being 00:08, 10 June 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Matt C. said ... ==<br />
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This guy is a Fraud. His website is down, and he's far from credible. This is the person who would says that the aliens sent the blueprints for their (trashcan lid looking) UFO's to the wrong people who ended up making them into trash can lids... seriously?<br />
David doesn't know the difference between There and Their, so his opinion is out. <br />
Is it harder to cover up the "truth" or to fall into the cross hairs of a conman?<br />
I'm going with Occam's Razor on this one. This solution is the simplest, obvious, one; this man is a fraud. <br />
This post will probably be deleted. Just saying...<br />
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--Matt C. 08:49, 16 June 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Neckel said ... ==<br />
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no your comment won't get deleted.......... haha it is always interesting to see people who come with information from second or even third hand and make judgments about others without having a clue of the person itself...... this is present in almost everyones life and i bet some judge you also in the same way. I bet you come after me when i do a "spelling" error like David did...... if one has nothing else to offer then one goes after the small and unimportant things, right ;)). If you find sth. with a higher ethic and a higher sense of moral then we can talk again. (Do not come with religions, most of them preach love and make war.) I wish you good luck in your search for the truth.<br />
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== DRN said ... ==<br />
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Couple things I don't understand. These are not in any certain order. <br />
1. You sell these photos. So Wouldn't any copy predating 1984 be of the original photo? And if so, how similar to the forgery are they?<br />
2. How did you find out Mr. S was working for the MIB and when? <br />
3. If Mr. S disappeared one day without a trace, how did his organization learn of his death?<br />
4. If Billy was told in 1984 these were forgeries, but yet forgot due to amnesia sustained in 1982, how was he able to recollect the origin of his nickname and the first and last name of the woman who gave it to her during an interview in 1982? Was it selected amnesia or partial?<br />
5. If you have a photo of Mr. S and factual evidence he worked for MIB, why not release that info? seems it would clear some up some of the misconceptions.<br />
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== DRN said ... ==<br />
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In question 3 when i say "his organization" I mean billy's. <br />
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--DRN 18:28, 11 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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DRN <br />
If I understood correctly MIB is not Will Smith or Tommy Lee Jones OR from our planet. They are from the Sirian region from an alternate time space bred to cause headaches on Earth. If this info is false however there is only one solution to ponder. Is Billy really Billy or is hea fake Billy? In that case arrest Billy, Asket, Nera, we have there photos and Quetzal, Ptaah, Semjase and send them to the prison planet for questioning. No one is exempt from breaking the rules and escaping universal security. :)<br />
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--Mark 02:04, 12 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==<br />
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There was a force of renegade Sirians known unofficially as the "men in black," and they were captured in a sting operation by Sirian security personnel in 2006, while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia."<br />
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The Earthly counterparts of the MIBs are real and were set up in the late 1940s to create fear in the minds and hearts of members of the public, military UFO witnesses, as well as the establishment (Forrestal for example) who may seek to reveal the truth about UFOs visiting this planet...which the Truman administration decided to clamp down upon...<br />
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Asket, Nera and Billy having their photos taken together sounds very recreational, but was actually intended to serve a highly useful purpose in furnishing objective evidence that "aliens" are actual relatives of earth humans and not "bug-eyed monsters," as depicted by the media, with some deliberation I might add...<br />
Indeed, there are far more points of commonality that such photos would provide, especially considering the beauty of the women selected and the fact that they were relatives from the DAL universe...(Asket.)<br />
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Unfortunately, this benign intent was muddied by the cruel MIBs, using those doubles from the US show...rendering the pix null and void..<br />
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A shame Billy did not realise sooner that the photographer (with a little persuading) had conned him with fakes.. <br />
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--Drekx Omega 16:00, 23 August 2010 (BST)<br />
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== MarksmanR said ... ==<br />
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Drekx, you twist truth with false tales.<br />
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"while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia.""<br />
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^ you made that up, it is not part of FIGU material, Cydonia doesn't exist.<br />
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--[[User:MarksmanR|MarksmanR]] 16:34, 23 August 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==<br />
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MarksmanR,<br />
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Cydonia is a well known region mapped by Earth astronomers and astro-cartographers and named by them; "cydonia." So your ignorant claims of "false tales," are falsehoods in themselves and I don't like your tone...<br />
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First of all, FIGU material is not a new religion that demands blind obedience from it's "followers."<br />
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Second, the Plejaren do not always expect you to follow everything in the reports, as if it were holy rit.<br />
You are supposed to supplement their data with your own, when possible. So if mention is made of X, you should appreciate it's correlation to Y.<br />
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Thirdly, the contact reports do mention the very "sting operation" I mentioned, that ocurred at the Cydonia region complex of monuments upon the Martian surface...<br />
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I'll attach the contact report by Ptaah for your perusal and education....<br />
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http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Men_in_Black,_Mars_and_Meteors<br />
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--Drekx Omega 20:51, 23 August 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==<br />
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TCFelon said:<br />
"Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics"<br />
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Drekx response:<br />
The Sirians did capture their own renagade MIBs in 2006, ending a dangerous operation against the Plejaren programme with Meier...<br />
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So contrary to popular belief, the Sirians are well known allies of the Plejaren, even if this is not mentioned much in the contact notes, for whatever reason...<br />
The rare exceptions being contact reports 311 and 471...grateful to them for that coverage, so thanks to Billy and Ptaah.<br />
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Now with reference to the Earth human MIBs...they are operatives for the American Military-industrial complex of corporations...<br />
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Under the laws of human freewill and non interference, neither the Sirians nor Plejaren were able to prevent their mischief, at the time of the Nera/Asket photo fix..<br />
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However, with rising human consciousness and full Sirian mandate, that right to protect this planet's people with fairness, is increasingly placing pressure on the evil doers who run the NSA, MIBs, etc, etc...<br />
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Maybe if Meier were allowed to try this again, although the Plejaren would not want to risk his life, or that of his family...<br />
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It really is dependent on a change in the way this planet is secretly governed, so politics and economics require to be addressed..<br />
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Incidentally, there are no ET rulers running the human elites, no "reptiles," etc...just bad human beings running banks, governments, corporations and security..<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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how can we see the real pictures .<br />
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--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 03:38, 3 September 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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Ashegheaty, Theyfly.com has some nice pictures.Don't worry about photoshopping the pictues Asket AND Nera according to reports are in the DAL universe and cannot be affected by our Earth degeneracies. :)<br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 14:04, 3 September 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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i meant real pictures of asket , i searched the entire internet and couldnt find any real pictures of here , can any one help .<br />
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--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 01:52, 5 September 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Jamesm said ... ==<br />
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Ashegheaty, I think only Billy knows which one is real since he met her face-to-face. But with this in mind it could be the one on the left below: [[File:The real asket.png]]<br />
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--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 12:38, 5 September 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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thanks jamesm , i guess those are the long ear lobs that she has . so the timmers have longer earlobs just like the pleiadians . or maybe this is semjase .are you sure this is asket the lady from trillions of light years away , the twin universe of ours .?<br />
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--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 04:54, 9 September 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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another question :the pleiadians can time travel so they can travel to the future so much that they can see when our universe has became an absolute absolutum but they say they cant go beyond the seventh great time .so thats only 15 thousand trillion years from now and still a long way for us to become an absolutum , whats there limitation .and the other thing is they know whats gonna happen to humanity in the next 100 , 200 and 1000 years .and if we are going to destroy our self<br />
they know . but they cant interfere in our evolution . <br />
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--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 05:02, 9 September 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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You can tell through the eyes. It is best to meet them in person because looks can sometimes be manipulated. If you were to meet someone and see natural eye movement relating to certain topics and how they react you will know if they are genuine or fake.:)<br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 05:10, 9 September 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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The truth is beautiful. The Truth is that Billy should be given a Hero Status for enduring all he has in order to bring this information to the world. I am trying to spread the word of all that has happened and give poeple hope as well as to bring the other truth of Roswell NM. Bob Lasar, Edgar Fouche, Phil Schneider, Gary Mckinnon, Norwegian Politician, and Billy Meier and the Pleiadian Message.. Saalome.<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 22:31, 23 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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It's so easy to determine who is Asket by using your 6th sense of intuition. With many of BEAM's materials, such "hidden" connections are to be discovered by your inner-self, devoid of ego or assumptions that many restrict themselves unfortunately.<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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I agree 110% with Hawaiian.............or maybe not.:)<br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 05:38, 24 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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I agree, the fact that such effort went into forgery of the Photo's of Asket and Nera are more proof that the contacts are & were real. I have personaly seen evidence that the US Government is in search for Plejaren (The good ones) and that they are working with the Baffath sect of Plejaren. It is a sickening truth to me that I live in a country that would sell their own people for technology but it is the truth. They have gone so far as to work with other Dark Ones and combine technologies and use them to try to control the masses. To date this has been a success, however I and a few others have come forward to provide proof that we are being implanted with control devices that actualy prevent us from meditating and push negative thoughts on us as well. I share this info through my website on YouTube when asked, just goto my channel, sweet6b9. Peace & Wisdom Billy Meier. You are a blessing to the Human Race.<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 22:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== CriticalThinker said ... ==<br />
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What an utterly preposterous and lame excuse!<br />
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Meier has been caught red-handed faking these and the dinosaur photos.<br />
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Do you people have no ability to think critically?<br />
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--[[User:CriticalThinker|CriticalThinker]] 12:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sanjin said ... ==<br />
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Hi CriticalThinker.<br />
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I've read all of your comments and my thinking has told me that you most likely don't even know what critical thinking means. If you do, your posts are not showing that at all. The word "critical" in the context of critical thinking does not mean negative or disapproving or denigrating thinking, which is what the majority of your posts are based on. You should start representing your nickname a little better by educating yourself on what critical thinking actually means by studying this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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I agree with Sanjin, it has already been made clear in the contact notes that the photo's were faked and returned to Billy and that at a later date that Quetzl destroyed them all due to the numerous forgeries. In fact they also mention how it was proven that the forgery of Asket & Nera was not taken from a TV Screen as they tried to claim, that upon closer inspection you could not see the 3 color pixilation that would have appeared if it had been taken from a TV Set. CriticalThinker sounds like a Disinformation Agent, why would someone who feels this is untrue even bother to create an account or leave messages? They wouldn't! Peace & Wisdom<br />
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Can anyone tell me if the galactic federation/ashtar command/andromeda council are real or disinfo?<br />
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Criticalthinker hahahahahahaha thats the funniest name that is filled with your hypocrisy you are a disinfo jackwagon and dont even know it....who brainwashed you? You must be from the U.S.<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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To Critical Thinker, aka daisycutter. The pterodactyl photos are not the same. I tried to point that out to you but you banned me from your youtube site as do all the tards who don't want any views which are aren't in agreement with their own views. There are about 10 differences between the pictures. I guess you don't have an eye for detail.<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Sheila - I have a youtube site also, it is the same name as on here, sweet6b9. Feel free to contact me there or send a message if that is still possible with the new layout. I seriously think they changed it to make it harder for me to share the meditation info or the other info I share regarding William Cooper and Phil Schneider who also spoke about Billy Meiers contacts being real. Have you used the Meditation Exercise precisely the way that Billy said to do it? I would be interested in sharing info if you have or had any difficulties. I have some suggestions that help people to stay focused during the meditation.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 08:22, 3 May 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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JamesM - I cannot leave a reply to you on Main Page? I appologize if I deleted anything, I may have been correcting my own text and certainly did not realize that I had deleted anyone elses text so again I appologize. Apparently there are some Disinfo Agents on here (MIB) and they have tried to ridicule what I know. I will not argue with them. Billy's contacts were very real and I found the proof while working for the U.S. Government. This led me to the Meditation Exercise Billy provided to us. This has been a life changing realization and things have happened. I respect all that Billy has to say and I only hope that others can also think logicly and realize that in the contact notes when they told Billy that they could not discuss what was happening in America it was to protect him. Things are bad here, I am tring to wake people up here but it is slow going. I am not alone. Feel free to contact me. I wish we could leave personal messages for each other on this website so I could speak to individuals here. I would have put this in a personal message to you instead of posting it so I appologize for this also. Blessings to you for maintaining the site and continuing to share the truth from Billy Meiers.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 08:30, 3 May 2012 (BST)<br />
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== james said ... ==<br />
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to understand the BM puzzle one needs to have a more generic view; then the BM piece will fit in the logic of things.. accept the truth or live the consequences.. please analyze the following evidence and make your own mind:<br />
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1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV5AFFcZ-s <br />
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2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr7FJohm68o<br />
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3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp-P031C4Vg<br />
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welcome to the real world...<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Hello, I would like to know what contact note mentions Billy's partial amnesia. I remember reading about this in the contact notes but I cannot locate the exact contact Note or Notes that discuss this partial amnesia after his apparent bout with the Flu?<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge Virginia, USA, 20:42, 22 February 2013 (GMT)<br />
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Drummerschlong, Just my two cents but, I believe that The Galactic Federation of Light is mentioned in the contact notes as being connected to the Baffath, Ashtar Command, well think of the name Ashtar Ash and Tar. Sorta Biblical Ash and Tar are not Light and Love.. Just saying. Lastly, Andromeda Council, Again, in the contact notes the Andromeda council are mentioned as a group that the Plejaren consult for advice.<br />
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Peace in Wisdom and many blessings to Billy for enduring the attempts on his life, the many people that joined his group only to turn on him, and his own wife that turned on him later. I firmly believe that she was affected by the Nano-Implant Technology known as Synthetic Telepathy Implants that has been used by the Lower Dimensional Races to Hypnotize and Control Younger Spiritual Races like the Human Race on Earth. You will not find much info about this technology anywhere but I can tell you that it is real and that if you use real focus during the meditation exercise that you can detect the implants, they flash bright lights in your eyes in a strobe light effect, this is used to enduce Hypnosis and brain wash people. It is heavily in use on our planet and is the main reason that so many have been blinded to the truth of spiritual wisdom over Materialism on Earth. Only when we recognize this very real and prevalent danger can we take action to defend against this control mechanism.<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge Va, USA, 18:46, 23 February 2013 (GMT)<br />
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Ashegheaty: That picture is of Asket (on the left) as Billy was unable to take photos of Semjase due to the fact that she still visits Earth whereas Asket will not come back here for a very long time so there's no risk to her being recognised. Notice the softer look on Asket's face as opposed to the woman used to fake the pictures, making Billy appear a fake himself.<br />
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--[[User:Cat|Cat]] ([[User talk:Cat|talk]]), New Zealand, 06:27, 25 February 2013 (GMT)<br />
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I have thoroughly examined the video footage and the pictures to find if the pictures came from the footage of the Dean Martin show. The examination of this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6edQVowYLA , shows that the Pictures shown as #110 & #111 do not match the sequences of the actresses within the film. They are very close but nothing was shown that was entirely exact based upon head angles, lip positions, and body positions of the two girls shown in #111. The same was found to be true of correlating #110 with the video footage. These photos are not of the Dean Martin girls. Photo #109 is butchered and reveals evidence of massive tampering with a girl's face pasted over a male face likely to be Dean Martin beside what can reasonbly be assumed to be Michelle Dellafave based upon the blatancy of the garbled, yet, clear image. I have yet to see anyone hunt for the identity of the girl who is pasted over the male in picture #109.<br />
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Thank you Cat and Val Thor. Billy's contacts were very real and just like Jmmanuel's time on earth are a very important part of our future for those that recognize and realize the truth of the power of the Force of Spirit within us all.<br />
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I use the Meditation Exercise daily and still I feel such energy, even electrical snergy transference from my top teeth to my bottom teeth and my tongue during the part of the meditation where I am staring at the reflection of the Sun. I use a Convex Mirror Lense and stare directly at the sunlight during the middle of the day. I am not trying to increase the rate of my energy growth as I know that all things require patience and time to develop in a Natural and Good way. I find that many others here in America that were raised in similar surroundings as I was do not possess the patience to perform the exercise daily and do not understand that it may take a year or two before they experience any significant difference in their health, energy, or ability to perform any significant spiritual actions.<br />
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However Hope springs eternal and I am always still on the lookout for those few that will find their way back to the light and rediscover the truth of how we are all super humans spiritually.<br />
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Many Blessings to you both and to Billy and to the Renegades of Light and the Plejaren Federation and to Creation from my spirit.<br />
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Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge VA, USA, 19:02, 23 April 2013 (CEST)<br />
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This is not really related to the Asket and Nera photo's but for anyone that is interested, you can find a photo of me if you search Google for (Demand Peace DC) and when the search results returns, select the link for Images on the top of the page. Someone took my photo in DC at the Occupation, it is in black and white. My dog and daughter are in the photo and the Gentleman on the bench to my left is named Nil. The caption is incorrect, the dogs were playing as they usually did when I went there. I can no longer travel there due to gas expense and parking tickets.<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge VA USA, 02:07, 7 June 2013 (CEST)<br />
</div></div>Sweet6b9https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:Billy_Meier%27s_mission&diff=19971Talk:Billy Meier's mission2013-06-06T23:48:35Z<p>Sweet6b9: Comment provided by Sweet6b9 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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I know that the Mission is real. I cannot say how I know this, but be aware. The Dark Ones have Brain monitoring devices, they give to the secret US Government. They are real, they put them in with Transporter technology. They used it to see my thoughts, scan my brain, they tried to hurt me many times now, tried to stop my heart, even make me sick. It will not work. The Pleadians must know of this technology and that they use it against us and them. They saw through my eyes. It is dangerous here, I am in the USA in Virginia, very close to the Heart of Darkness. I have awoken my Kundalini, and I fight still to spread the word.<br />
May Creation Bless Billy & his Family, May Creation Bless us ALL.<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Im still here and Im still spreading the truth about Billy Meiers contacts and the Meditation Exercise. I am in direct conflict with the Lower Dimensional Beings that are trying to control us. I will win because I have faith in my spirit and I have found evidence that the CIA has the original photo's that were never returned to Billy. Also the NAVY is involved in trying to conceal the truth about his contacts and the Meditation Exercise. Everyone should use the Meditation Exercise and you must use focus like a soldier uses focus to fight, but keep Love and Compassion in your heart when you Meditate and be sure to maintain focus or it is pointless.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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I still sit out and meditate on the sunlight each day. I cannot find work because of my extensive knowledge about the BEAM Mission and the Race that wishes to control Humanity of Earth and their involvement with the engineering of our society. I have to count on donations from caring individuals that pass by me. At the same time I am constantly inundated by Occultists and Secret Agents that work for the Intelligence Agencies and are assigned to interfere with my meditation exercise. When I begin to get into a deep meditation I can sometimes feel a finger or toe begin to vibrate with regular intervals. This is a Microscopic Nano-bot technology that they have implanted me with due to my success with the meditation exercise.<br />
Also I am producing UHF/VHF frequencies that are broadcasting all images I see and sounds I hear. This is being monitored by the Race that is trying to control us. I have encountered individuals who have approached me while I am sitting in the sunlight and when I look them in the eyes a metallic shiny shield will cover their eyes. This is hard to see unless you see their eyes at just the right angle. This is a shin sheet of Microscopic Nano-bots that they use to protect themselves as I have discovered that when I speak to people and look them directly in the eyes that I am able to open their minds and help them to see the truth of the BEAM Mission and the technology being used to control us.<br />
I believe that I am using my spiritual abilities to connect with them when this happens. I have not trained to do this, it just seems to happen naturally since I was a child. Sometimes it brings out a very negative response in people, they seem to be sensitive to my positive vibrations and are opposed to them.<br />
Also I have run into some people lately that state that there is a strange energy surrounding my body. I am not surprised about this as I have graduated to meditating directly on the light of the sun during the day. I look at the reflection of the sun in a convex mirror (dome shaped mirror). As I do this I can feel energies building up in my brain. Sometimes I feel electrical discharges from my teeth to my tongue. I know that this is very good for my continued good health and that as long as I continue to take advantage of clear sunny days to meditate to this deep state that I will continue to maintain good health. I have not been sick in over 3 years now due to my meditation exercise. However I am still alone. Everyone that I teach the meditation exercise to that uses it with proper focus gets attacked by their family, friends, strangers, employer, etc. all as a way to prevent them from doing the meditation exercise.<br />
I hope that others are having more success in teaching people that are interested in learning in their countries and areas. My phone may be turned off soon due to lack of money so you can still reach me at sweet6b9@yahoo.com if you wish to communicate with me, be sure to title the email with BEAM Mission so I will get to it quickly.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge VA USA, 01:48, 7 June 2013 (CEST)<br />
</div></div>Sweet6b9https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:Asket_and_Nera_Photos&diff=19873Talk:Asket and Nera Photos2013-04-23T17:02:13Z<p>Sweet6b9: Comment provided by Sweet6b9 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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i wondered why he would take a photo of tv screen when he had so much other undeniable evidence, this seems like an unlikely but rational explanation as it would be seem very out of character 2 forge the photo, ive read alot of know it all debunkers on youtube and beyond with there silly ''rational'' explanation, the miniture trees etc! i get angry at people like that but i guess they are on there on path. i just dont know why they go to the bother if they rnt interested!<br />
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== zameen said ... ==<br />
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People go to such lengths to cover up and or try to falsify the truth in order to keep profit streams alive. A disgusting practice but a reality nonetheless<br />
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Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics. and other unique proofs and have them circulate safely around the world as, Billy, his associates, on ground and above and I would like.. I guess I inadvertently lied to a few of my friends about some of the photos. I hope one day soon we ,(all of us around the world) can get together without any uncomfortable thoughts/feelings of deceit or any prejudged feelings of hate, jealously and anger towards next man 'and or entity.' Peace/Wisdom/Love/Truth. To the Plejaren Fed. and their wonderful associates. <br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I agree TCFelon but if they had to capture everybody who falsifies Billy's work and those that lack sincerity and genuineness it would probably take all eternity. They will probably only stop the most heinous pretenders. :) The photos are rather interesting because they say that Asket and Nera are from another universe thus they don't mind there photos being here. Due to the creativity and level of lowness some beings can reach they altered it so they are dancers on a talk show. That calls for a Billy uppercut to the nose. j/k<br />
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== tom said ... ==<br />
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Próby zamachów na Zycie Billego świadczą o niczym innym tylko o tym, że mówi on prawdę. To samo tyczy sie zafalszowywania jego zdjęć. <br />
Ci którzy znają temat szaraków i replitalian wiedzą kto to są "ludzie" w czerni... im najmniej zależy na poznaniu przez ludzi prawdy, prawdy, która przecież wyzwala, wyzwala z więzów zniewolenia..<br />
Meier od samego początku, jak zapoznałem się z jego osobą, wyzwala we mnie zaufanie... Jest zupełnie niepodobnym do tych co gonią za władzą i towarzyszącą jej ułudą pieniądza. Zna wiele praw duchowych i sam żyje wedle nich, więc mało prawdopodobne jest to, że próbowałby robić jakiekolwiek fałszerstwa, a tym bardziej, jak niektóre źródła jemu zarzucają, w celu zdobycia sławy lub majątku.<br />
Bardziej mają powody ku temu ci, którzy obawiają się zaistnienia tych praw w ludzkich sercach i umysłach, bo to rujnuje ich starania o zniewolenie gatunku ludzkiego.<br />
Więcej niczego chyba nie trzeba tu dodawać. Przynajmniej ode mnie to wszystko.<br />
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tom ist from Poland ;) <br />
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BEAM is awesome, thank you ! controlledfollymaker@gmail.com<br />
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== Matt C. said ... ==<br />
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This guy is a Fraud. His website is down, and he's far from credible. This is the person who would says that the aliens sent the blueprints for their (trashcan lid looking) UFO's to the wrong people who ended up making them into trash can lids... seriously?<br />
David doesn't know the difference between There and Their, so his opinion is out. <br />
Is it harder to cover up the "truth" or to fall into the cross hairs of a conman?<br />
I'm going with Occam's Razor on this one. This solution is the simplest, obvious, one; this man is a fraud. <br />
This post will probably be deleted. Just saying...<br />
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== Neckel said ... ==<br />
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no your comment won't get deleted.......... haha it is always interesting to see people who come with information from second or even third hand and make judgments about others without having a clue of the person itself...... this is present in almost everyones life and i bet some judge you also in the same way. I bet you come after me when i do a "spelling" error like David did...... if one has nothing else to offer then one goes after the small and unimportant things, right ;)). If you find sth. with a higher ethic and a higher sense of moral then we can talk again. (Do not come with religions, most of them preach love and make war.) I wish you good luck in your search for the truth.<br />
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== DRN said ... ==<br />
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Couple things I don't understand. These are not in any certain order. <br />
1. You sell these photos. So Wouldn't any copy predating 1984 be of the original photo? And if so, how similar to the forgery are they?<br />
2. How did you find out Mr. S was working for the MIB and when? <br />
3. If Mr. S disappeared one day without a trace, how did his organization learn of his death?<br />
4. If Billy was told in 1984 these were forgeries, but yet forgot due to amnesia sustained in 1982, how was he able to recollect the origin of his nickname and the first and last name of the woman who gave it to her during an interview in 1982? Was it selected amnesia or partial?<br />
5. If you have a photo of Mr. S and factual evidence he worked for MIB, why not release that info? seems it would clear some up some of the misconceptions.<br />
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In question 3 when i say "his organization" I mean billy's. <br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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If I understood correctly MIB is not Will Smith or Tommy Lee Jones OR from our planet. They are from the Sirian region from an alternate time space bred to cause headaches on Earth. If this info is false however there is only one solution to ponder. Is Billy really Billy or is hea fake Billy? In that case arrest Billy, Asket, Nera, we have there photos and Quetzal, Ptaah, Semjase and send them to the prison planet for questioning. No one is exempt from breaking the rules and escaping universal security. :)<br />
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There was a force of renegade Sirians known unofficially as the "men in black," and they were captured in a sting operation by Sirian security personnel in 2006, while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia."<br />
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The Earthly counterparts of the MIBs are real and were set up in the late 1940s to create fear in the minds and hearts of members of the public, military UFO witnesses, as well as the establishment (Forrestal for example) who may seek to reveal the truth about UFOs visiting this planet...which the Truman administration decided to clamp down upon...<br />
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Asket, Nera and Billy having their photos taken together sounds very recreational, but was actually intended to serve a highly useful purpose in furnishing objective evidence that "aliens" are actual relatives of earth humans and not "bug-eyed monsters," as depicted by the media, with some deliberation I might add...<br />
Indeed, there are far more points of commonality that such photos would provide, especially considering the beauty of the women selected and the fact that they were relatives from the DAL universe...(Asket.)<br />
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Unfortunately, this benign intent was muddied by the cruel MIBs, using those doubles from the US show...rendering the pix null and void..<br />
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A shame Billy did not realise sooner that the photographer (with a little persuading) had conned him with fakes.. <br />
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Drekx, you twist truth with false tales.<br />
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"while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia.""<br />
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^ you made that up, it is not part of FIGU material, Cydonia doesn't exist.<br />
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Cydonia is a well known region mapped by Earth astronomers and astro-cartographers and named by them; "cydonia." So your ignorant claims of "false tales," are falsehoods in themselves and I don't like your tone...<br />
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First of all, FIGU material is not a new religion that demands blind obedience from it's "followers."<br />
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Second, the Plejaren do not always expect you to follow everything in the reports, as if it were holy rit.<br />
You are supposed to supplement their data with your own, when possible. So if mention is made of X, you should appreciate it's correlation to Y.<br />
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Thirdly, the contact reports do mention the very "sting operation" I mentioned, that ocurred at the Cydonia region complex of monuments upon the Martian surface...<br />
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I'll attach the contact report by Ptaah for your perusal and education....<br />
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http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Men_in_Black,_Mars_and_Meteors<br />
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TCFelon said:<br />
"Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics"<br />
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Drekx response:<br />
The Sirians did capture their own renagade MIBs in 2006, ending a dangerous operation against the Plejaren programme with Meier...<br />
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So contrary to popular belief, the Sirians are well known allies of the Plejaren, even if this is not mentioned much in the contact notes, for whatever reason...<br />
The rare exceptions being contact reports 311 and 471...grateful to them for that coverage, so thanks to Billy and Ptaah.<br />
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Now with reference to the Earth human MIBs...they are operatives for the American Military-industrial complex of corporations...<br />
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Under the laws of human freewill and non interference, neither the Sirians nor Plejaren were able to prevent their mischief, at the time of the Nera/Asket photo fix..<br />
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However, with rising human consciousness and full Sirian mandate, that right to protect this planet's people with fairness, is increasingly placing pressure on the evil doers who run the NSA, MIBs, etc, etc...<br />
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Maybe if Meier were allowed to try this again, although the Plejaren would not want to risk his life, or that of his family...<br />
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It really is dependent on a change in the way this planet is secretly governed, so politics and economics require to be addressed..<br />
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Incidentally, there are no ET rulers running the human elites, no "reptiles," etc...just bad human beings running banks, governments, corporations and security..<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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how can we see the real pictures .<br />
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Ashegheaty, Theyfly.com has some nice pictures.Don't worry about photoshopping the pictues Asket AND Nera according to reports are in the DAL universe and cannot be affected by our Earth degeneracies. :)<br />
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i meant real pictures of asket , i searched the entire internet and couldnt find any real pictures of here , can any one help .<br />
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Ashegheaty, I think only Billy knows which one is real since he met her face-to-face. But with this in mind it could be the one on the left below: [[File:The real asket.png]]<br />
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thanks jamesm , i guess those are the long ear lobs that she has . so the timmers have longer earlobs just like the pleiadians . or maybe this is semjase .are you sure this is asket the lady from trillions of light years away , the twin universe of ours .?<br />
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another question :the pleiadians can time travel so they can travel to the future so much that they can see when our universe has became an absolute absolutum but they say they cant go beyond the seventh great time .so thats only 15 thousand trillion years from now and still a long way for us to become an absolutum , whats there limitation .and the other thing is they know whats gonna happen to humanity in the next 100 , 200 and 1000 years .and if we are going to destroy our self<br />
they know . but they cant interfere in our evolution . <br />
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You can tell through the eyes. It is best to meet them in person because looks can sometimes be manipulated. If you were to meet someone and see natural eye movement relating to certain topics and how they react you will know if they are genuine or fake.:)<br />
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The truth is beautiful. The Truth is that Billy should be given a Hero Status for enduring all he has in order to bring this information to the world. I am trying to spread the word of all that has happened and give poeple hope as well as to bring the other truth of Roswell NM. Bob Lasar, Edgar Fouche, Phil Schneider, Gary Mckinnon, Norwegian Politician, and Billy Meier and the Pleiadian Message.. Saalome.<br />
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It's so easy to determine who is Asket by using your 6th sense of intuition. With many of BEAM's materials, such "hidden" connections are to be discovered by your inner-self, devoid of ego or assumptions that many restrict themselves unfortunately.<br />
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I agree 110% with Hawaiian.............or maybe not.:)<br />
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I agree, the fact that such effort went into forgery of the Photo's of Asket and Nera are more proof that the contacts are & were real. I have personaly seen evidence that the US Government is in search for Plejaren (The good ones) and that they are working with the Baffath sect of Plejaren. It is a sickening truth to me that I live in a country that would sell their own people for technology but it is the truth. They have gone so far as to work with other Dark Ones and combine technologies and use them to try to control the masses. To date this has been a success, however I and a few others have come forward to provide proof that we are being implanted with control devices that actualy prevent us from meditating and push negative thoughts on us as well. I share this info through my website on YouTube when asked, just goto my channel, sweet6b9. Peace & Wisdom Billy Meier. You are a blessing to the Human Race.<br />
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What an utterly preposterous and lame excuse!<br />
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Meier has been caught red-handed faking these and the dinosaur photos.<br />
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Do you people have no ability to think critically?<br />
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Hi CriticalThinker.<br />
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I've read all of your comments and my thinking has told me that you most likely don't even know what critical thinking means. If you do, your posts are not showing that at all. The word "critical" in the context of critical thinking does not mean negative or disapproving or denigrating thinking, which is what the majority of your posts are based on. You should start representing your nickname a little better by educating yourself on what critical thinking actually means by studying this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking<br />
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I agree with Sanjin, it has already been made clear in the contact notes that the photo's were faked and returned to Billy and that at a later date that Quetzl destroyed them all due to the numerous forgeries. In fact they also mention how it was proven that the forgery of Asket & Nera was not taken from a TV Screen as they tried to claim, that upon closer inspection you could not see the 3 color pixilation that would have appeared if it had been taken from a TV Set. CriticalThinker sounds like a Disinformation Agent, why would someone who feels this is untrue even bother to create an account or leave messages? They wouldn't! Peace & Wisdom<br />
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== Drummerschlong said ... ==<br />
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Can anyone tell me if the galactic federation/ashtar command/andromeda council are real or disinfo?<br />
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== Drummerschlong said ... ==<br />
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Criticalthinker hahahahahahaha thats the funniest name that is filled with your hypocrisy you are a disinfo jackwagon and dont even know it....who brainwashed you? You must be from the U.S.<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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To Critical Thinker, aka daisycutter. The pterodactyl photos are not the same. I tried to point that out to you but you banned me from your youtube site as do all the tards who don't want any views which are aren't in agreement with their own views. There are about 10 differences between the pictures. I guess you don't have an eye for detail.<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Sheila - I have a youtube site also, it is the same name as on here, sweet6b9. Feel free to contact me there or send a message if that is still possible with the new layout. I seriously think they changed it to make it harder for me to share the meditation info or the other info I share regarding William Cooper and Phil Schneider who also spoke about Billy Meiers contacts being real. Have you used the Meditation Exercise precisely the way that Billy said to do it? I would be interested in sharing info if you have or had any difficulties. I have some suggestions that help people to stay focused during the meditation.<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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JamesM - I cannot leave a reply to you on Main Page? I appologize if I deleted anything, I may have been correcting my own text and certainly did not realize that I had deleted anyone elses text so again I appologize. Apparently there are some Disinfo Agents on here (MIB) and they have tried to ridicule what I know. I will not argue with them. Billy's contacts were very real and I found the proof while working for the U.S. Government. This led me to the Meditation Exercise Billy provided to us. This has been a life changing realization and things have happened. I respect all that Billy has to say and I only hope that others can also think logicly and realize that in the contact notes when they told Billy that they could not discuss what was happening in America it was to protect him. Things are bad here, I am tring to wake people up here but it is slow going. I am not alone. Feel free to contact me. I wish we could leave personal messages for each other on this website so I could speak to individuals here. I would have put this in a personal message to you instead of posting it so I appologize for this also. Blessings to you for maintaining the site and continuing to share the truth from Billy Meiers.<br />
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to understand the BM puzzle one needs to have a more generic view; then the BM piece will fit in the logic of things.. accept the truth or live the consequences.. please analyze the following evidence and make your own mind:<br />
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1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV5AFFcZ-s <br />
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2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr7FJohm68o<br />
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3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp-P031C4Vg<br />
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welcome to the real world...<br />
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Hello, I would like to know what contact note mentions Billy's partial amnesia. I remember reading about this in the contact notes but I cannot locate the exact contact Note or Notes that discuss this partial amnesia after his apparent bout with the Flu?<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge Virginia, USA, 20:42, 22 February 2013 (GMT)<br />
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Drummerschlong, Just my two cents but, I believe that The Galactic Federation of Light is mentioned in the contact notes as being connected to the Baffath, Ashtar Command, well think of the name Ashtar Ash and Tar. Sorta Biblical Ash and Tar are not Light and Love.. Just saying. Lastly, Andromeda Council, Again, in the contact notes the Andromeda council are mentioned as a group that the Plejaren consult for advice.<br />
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Peace in Wisdom and many blessings to Billy for enduring the attempts on his life, the many people that joined his group only to turn on him, and his own wife that turned on him later. I firmly believe that she was affected by the Nano-Implant Technology known as Synthetic Telepathy Implants that has been used by the Lower Dimensional Races to Hypnotize and Control Younger Spiritual Races like the Human Race on Earth. You will not find much info about this technology anywhere but I can tell you that it is real and that if you use real focus during the meditation exercise that you can detect the implants, they flash bright lights in your eyes in a strobe light effect, this is used to enduce Hypnosis and brain wash people. It is heavily in use on our planet and is the main reason that so many have been blinded to the truth of spiritual wisdom over Materialism on Earth. Only when we recognize this very real and prevalent danger can we take action to defend against this control mechanism.<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge Va, USA, 18:46, 23 February 2013 (GMT)<br />
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Ashegheaty: That picture is of Asket (on the left) as Billy was unable to take photos of Semjase due to the fact that she still visits Earth whereas Asket will not come back here for a very long time so there's no risk to her being recognised. Notice the softer look on Asket's face as opposed to the woman used to fake the pictures, making Billy appear a fake himself.<br />
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--[[User:Cat|Cat]] ([[User talk:Cat|talk]]), New Zealand, 06:27, 25 February 2013 (GMT)<br />
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I have thoroughly examined the video footage and the pictures to find if the pictures came from the footage of the Dean Martin show. The examination of this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6edQVowYLA , shows that the Pictures shown as #110 & #111 do not match the sequences of the actresses within the film. They are very close but nothing was shown that was entirely exact based upon head angles, lip positions, and body positions of the two girls shown in #111. The same was found to be true of correlating #110 with the video footage. These photos are not of the Dean Martin girls. Photo #109 is butchered and reveals evidence of massive tampering with a girl's face pasted over a male face likely to be Dean Martin beside what can reasonbly be assumed to be Michelle Dellafave based upon the blatancy of the garbled, yet, clear image. I have yet to see anyone hunt for the identity of the girl who is pasted over the male in picture #109.<br />
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Thank you Cat and Val Thor. Billy's contacts were very real and just like Jmmanuel's time on earth are a very important part of our future for those that recognize and realize the truth of the power of the Force of Spirit within us all.<br />
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I use the Meditation Exercise daily and still I feel such energy, even electrical snergy transference from my top teeth to my bottom teeth and my tongue during the part of the meditation where I am staring at the reflection of the Sun. I use a Convex Mirror Lense and stare directly at the sunlight during the middle of the day. I am not trying to increase the rate of my energy growth as I know that all things require patience and time to develop in a Natural and Good way. I find that many others here in America that were raised in similar surroundings as I was do not possess the patience to perform the exercise daily and do not understand that it may take a year or two before they experience any significant difference in their health, energy, or ability to perform any significant spiritual actions.<br />
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However Hope springs eternal and I am always still on the lookout for those few that will find their way back to the light and rediscover the truth of how we are all super humans spiritually.<br />
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Many Blessings to you both and to Billy and to the Renegades of Light and the Plejaren Federation and to Creation from my spirit.<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge VA, USA, 19:02, 23 April 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== david said ... ==<br />
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i wondered why he would take a photo of tv screen when he had so much other undeniable evidence, this seems like an unlikely but rational explanation as it would be seem very out of character 2 forge the photo, ive read alot of know it all debunkers on youtube and beyond with there silly ''rational'' explanation, the miniture trees etc! i get angry at people like that but i guess they are on there on path. i just dont know why they go to the bother if they rnt interested!<br />
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== zameen said ... ==<br />
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People go to such lengths to cover up and or try to falsify the truth in order to keep profit streams alive. A disgusting practice but a reality nonetheless<br />
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== TCFelon said ... ==<br />
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Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics. and other unique proofs and have them circulate safely around the world as, Billy, his associates, on ground and above and I would like.. I guess I inadvertently lied to a few of my friends about some of the photos. I hope one day soon we ,(all of us around the world) can get together without any uncomfortable thoughts/feelings of deceit or any prejudged feelings of hate, jealously and anger towards next man 'and or entity.' Peace/Wisdom/Love/Truth. To the Plejaren Fed. and their wonderful associates. <br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I agree TCFelon but if they had to capture everybody who falsifies Billy's work and those that lack sincerity and genuineness it would probably take all eternity. They will probably only stop the most heinous pretenders. :) The photos are rather interesting because they say that Asket and Nera are from another universe thus they don't mind there photos being here. Due to the creativity and level of lowness some beings can reach they altered it so they are dancers on a talk show. That calls for a Billy uppercut to the nose. j/k<br />
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== tom said ... ==<br />
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Próby zamachów na Zycie Billego świadczą o niczym innym tylko o tym, że mówi on prawdę. To samo tyczy sie zafalszowywania jego zdjęć. <br />
Ci którzy znają temat szaraków i replitalian wiedzą kto to są "ludzie" w czerni... im najmniej zależy na poznaniu przez ludzi prawdy, prawdy, która przecież wyzwala, wyzwala z więzów zniewolenia..<br />
Meier od samego początku, jak zapoznałem się z jego osobą, wyzwala we mnie zaufanie... Jest zupełnie niepodobnym do tych co gonią za władzą i towarzyszącą jej ułudą pieniądza. Zna wiele praw duchowych i sam żyje wedle nich, więc mało prawdopodobne jest to, że próbowałby robić jakiekolwiek fałszerstwa, a tym bardziej, jak niektóre źródła jemu zarzucają, w celu zdobycia sławy lub majątku.<br />
Bardziej mają powody ku temu ci, którzy obawiają się zaistnienia tych praw w ludzkich sercach i umysłach, bo to rujnuje ich starania o zniewolenie gatunku ludzkiego.<br />
Więcej niczego chyba nie trzeba tu dodawać. Przynajmniej ode mnie to wszystko.<br />
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--tom 15:15, 11 April 2010 (BST)<br />
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tom ist from Poland ;) <br />
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== human being said ... ==<br />
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BEAM is awesome, thank you ! controlledfollymaker@gmail.com<br />
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--human being 00:08, 10 June 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Matt C. said ... ==<br />
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This guy is a Fraud. His website is down, and he's far from credible. This is the person who would says that the aliens sent the blueprints for their (trashcan lid looking) UFO's to the wrong people who ended up making them into trash can lids... seriously?<br />
David doesn't know the difference between There and Their, so his opinion is out. <br />
Is it harder to cover up the "truth" or to fall into the cross hairs of a conman?<br />
I'm going with Occam's Razor on this one. This solution is the simplest, obvious, one; this man is a fraud. <br />
This post will probably be deleted. Just saying...<br />
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== Neckel said ... ==<br />
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no your comment won't get deleted.......... haha it is always interesting to see people who come with information from second or even third hand and make judgments about others without having a clue of the person itself...... this is present in almost everyones life and i bet some judge you also in the same way. I bet you come after me when i do a "spelling" error like David did...... if one has nothing else to offer then one goes after the small and unimportant things, right ;)). If you find sth. with a higher ethic and a higher sense of moral then we can talk again. (Do not come with religions, most of them preach love and make war.) I wish you good luck in your search for the truth.<br />
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== DRN said ... ==<br />
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Couple things I don't understand. These are not in any certain order. <br />
1. You sell these photos. So Wouldn't any copy predating 1984 be of the original photo? And if so, how similar to the forgery are they?<br />
2. How did you find out Mr. S was working for the MIB and when? <br />
3. If Mr. S disappeared one day without a trace, how did his organization learn of his death?<br />
4. If Billy was told in 1984 these were forgeries, but yet forgot due to amnesia sustained in 1982, how was he able to recollect the origin of his nickname and the first and last name of the woman who gave it to her during an interview in 1982? Was it selected amnesia or partial?<br />
5. If you have a photo of Mr. S and factual evidence he worked for MIB, why not release that info? seems it would clear some up some of the misconceptions.<br />
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In question 3 when i say "his organization" I mean billy's. <br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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DRN <br />
If I understood correctly MIB is not Will Smith or Tommy Lee Jones OR from our planet. They are from the Sirian region from an alternate time space bred to cause headaches on Earth. If this info is false however there is only one solution to ponder. Is Billy really Billy or is hea fake Billy? In that case arrest Billy, Asket, Nera, we have there photos and Quetzal, Ptaah, Semjase and send them to the prison planet for questioning. No one is exempt from breaking the rules and escaping universal security. :)<br />
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==<br />
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There was a force of renegade Sirians known unofficially as the "men in black," and they were captured in a sting operation by Sirian security personnel in 2006, while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia."<br />
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The Earthly counterparts of the MIBs are real and were set up in the late 1940s to create fear in the minds and hearts of members of the public, military UFO witnesses, as well as the establishment (Forrestal for example) who may seek to reveal the truth about UFOs visiting this planet...which the Truman administration decided to clamp down upon...<br />
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Asket, Nera and Billy having their photos taken together sounds very recreational, but was actually intended to serve a highly useful purpose in furnishing objective evidence that "aliens" are actual relatives of earth humans and not "bug-eyed monsters," as depicted by the media, with some deliberation I might add...<br />
Indeed, there are far more points of commonality that such photos would provide, especially considering the beauty of the women selected and the fact that they were relatives from the DAL universe...(Asket.)<br />
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Unfortunately, this benign intent was muddied by the cruel MIBs, using those doubles from the US show...rendering the pix null and void..<br />
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A shame Billy did not realise sooner that the photographer (with a little persuading) had conned him with fakes.. <br />
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== MarksmanR said ... ==<br />
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Drekx, you twist truth with false tales.<br />
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"while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia.""<br />
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^ you made that up, it is not part of FIGU material, Cydonia doesn't exist.<br />
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==<br />
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Cydonia is a well known region mapped by Earth astronomers and astro-cartographers and named by them; "cydonia." So your ignorant claims of "false tales," are falsehoods in themselves and I don't like your tone...<br />
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First of all, FIGU material is not a new religion that demands blind obedience from it's "followers."<br />
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Second, the Plejaren do not always expect you to follow everything in the reports, as if it were holy rit.<br />
You are supposed to supplement their data with your own, when possible. So if mention is made of X, you should appreciate it's correlation to Y.<br />
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Thirdly, the contact reports do mention the very "sting operation" I mentioned, that ocurred at the Cydonia region complex of monuments upon the Martian surface...<br />
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I'll attach the contact report by Ptaah for your perusal and education....<br />
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http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Men_in_Black,_Mars_and_Meteors<br />
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==<br />
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TCFelon said:<br />
"Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics"<br />
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Drekx response:<br />
The Sirians did capture their own renagade MIBs in 2006, ending a dangerous operation against the Plejaren programme with Meier...<br />
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So contrary to popular belief, the Sirians are well known allies of the Plejaren, even if this is not mentioned much in the contact notes, for whatever reason...<br />
The rare exceptions being contact reports 311 and 471...grateful to them for that coverage, so thanks to Billy and Ptaah.<br />
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Now with reference to the Earth human MIBs...they are operatives for the American Military-industrial complex of corporations...<br />
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Under the laws of human freewill and non interference, neither the Sirians nor Plejaren were able to prevent their mischief, at the time of the Nera/Asket photo fix..<br />
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However, with rising human consciousness and full Sirian mandate, that right to protect this planet's people with fairness, is increasingly placing pressure on the evil doers who run the NSA, MIBs, etc, etc...<br />
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Maybe if Meier were allowed to try this again, although the Plejaren would not want to risk his life, or that of his family...<br />
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It really is dependent on a change in the way this planet is secretly governed, so politics and economics require to be addressed..<br />
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Incidentally, there are no ET rulers running the human elites, no "reptiles," etc...just bad human beings running banks, governments, corporations and security..<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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how can we see the real pictures .<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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Ashegheaty, Theyfly.com has some nice pictures.Don't worry about photoshopping the pictues Asket AND Nera according to reports are in the DAL universe and cannot be affected by our Earth degeneracies. :)<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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i meant real pictures of asket , i searched the entire internet and couldnt find any real pictures of here , can any one help .<br />
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--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 01:52, 5 September 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Jamesm said ... ==<br />
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Ashegheaty, I think only Billy knows which one is real since he met her face-to-face. But with this in mind it could be the one on the left below: [[File:The real asket.png]]<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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thanks jamesm , i guess those are the long ear lobs that she has . so the timmers have longer earlobs just like the pleiadians . or maybe this is semjase .are you sure this is asket the lady from trillions of light years away , the twin universe of ours .?<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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another question :the pleiadians can time travel so they can travel to the future so much that they can see when our universe has became an absolute absolutum but they say they cant go beyond the seventh great time .so thats only 15 thousand trillion years from now and still a long way for us to become an absolutum , whats there limitation .and the other thing is they know whats gonna happen to humanity in the next 100 , 200 and 1000 years .and if we are going to destroy our self<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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You can tell through the eyes. It is best to meet them in person because looks can sometimes be manipulated. If you were to meet someone and see natural eye movement relating to certain topics and how they react you will know if they are genuine or fake.:)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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The truth is beautiful. The Truth is that Billy should be given a Hero Status for enduring all he has in order to bring this information to the world. I am trying to spread the word of all that has happened and give poeple hope as well as to bring the other truth of Roswell NM. Bob Lasar, Edgar Fouche, Phil Schneider, Gary Mckinnon, Norwegian Politician, and Billy Meier and the Pleiadian Message.. Saalome.<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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It's so easy to determine who is Asket by using your 6th sense of intuition. With many of BEAM's materials, such "hidden" connections are to be discovered by your inner-self, devoid of ego or assumptions that many restrict themselves unfortunately.<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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I agree 110% with Hawaiian.............or maybe not.:)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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I agree, the fact that such effort went into forgery of the Photo's of Asket and Nera are more proof that the contacts are & were real. I have personaly seen evidence that the US Government is in search for Plejaren (The good ones) and that they are working with the Baffath sect of Plejaren. It is a sickening truth to me that I live in a country that would sell their own people for technology but it is the truth. They have gone so far as to work with other Dark Ones and combine technologies and use them to try to control the masses. To date this has been a success, however I and a few others have come forward to provide proof that we are being implanted with control devices that actualy prevent us from meditating and push negative thoughts on us as well. I share this info through my website on YouTube when asked, just goto my channel, sweet6b9. Peace & Wisdom Billy Meier. You are a blessing to the Human Race.<br />
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What an utterly preposterous and lame excuse!<br />
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Meier has been caught red-handed faking these and the dinosaur photos.<br />
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Do you people have no ability to think critically?<br />
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== Sanjin said ... ==<br />
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Hi CriticalThinker.<br />
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I've read all of your comments and my thinking has told me that you most likely don't even know what critical thinking means. If you do, your posts are not showing that at all. The word "critical" in the context of critical thinking does not mean negative or disapproving or denigrating thinking, which is what the majority of your posts are based on. You should start representing your nickname a little better by educating yourself on what critical thinking actually means by studying this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking<br />
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I agree with Sanjin, it has already been made clear in the contact notes that the photo's were faked and returned to Billy and that at a later date that Quetzl destroyed them all due to the numerous forgeries. In fact they also mention how it was proven that the forgery of Asket & Nera was not taken from a TV Screen as they tried to claim, that upon closer inspection you could not see the 3 color pixilation that would have appeared if it had been taken from a TV Set. CriticalThinker sounds like a Disinformation Agent, why would someone who feels this is untrue even bother to create an account or leave messages? They wouldn't! Peace & Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 19:33, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Can anyone tell me if the galactic federation/ashtar command/andromeda council are real or disinfo?<br />
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--[[User:Drummerschlong|Drummerschlong]] 08:23, 4 April 2012 (BST)<br />
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Criticalthinker hahahahahahaha thats the funniest name that is filled with your hypocrisy you are a disinfo jackwagon and dont even know it....who brainwashed you? You must be from the U.S.<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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To Critical Thinker, aka daisycutter. The pterodactyl photos are not the same. I tried to point that out to you but you banned me from your youtube site as do all the tards who don't want any views which are aren't in agreement with their own views. There are about 10 differences between the pictures. I guess you don't have an eye for detail.<br />
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Sheila - I have a youtube site also, it is the same name as on here, sweet6b9. Feel free to contact me there or send a message if that is still possible with the new layout. I seriously think they changed it to make it harder for me to share the meditation info or the other info I share regarding William Cooper and Phil Schneider who also spoke about Billy Meiers contacts being real. Have you used the Meditation Exercise precisely the way that Billy said to do it? I would be interested in sharing info if you have or had any difficulties. I have some suggestions that help people to stay focused during the meditation.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 08:22, 3 May 2012 (BST)<br />
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JamesM - I cannot leave a reply to you on Main Page? I appologize if I deleted anything, I may have been correcting my own text and certainly did not realize that I had deleted anyone elses text so again I appologize. Apparently there are some Disinfo Agents on here (MIB) and they have tried to ridicule what I know. I will not argue with them. Billy's contacts were very real and I found the proof while working for the U.S. Government. This led me to the Meditation Exercise Billy provided to us. This has been a life changing realization and things have happened. I respect all that Billy has to say and I only hope that others can also think logicly and realize that in the contact notes when they told Billy that they could not discuss what was happening in America it was to protect him. Things are bad here, I am tring to wake people up here but it is slow going. I am not alone. Feel free to contact me. I wish we could leave personal messages for each other on this website so I could speak to individuals here. I would have put this in a personal message to you instead of posting it so I appologize for this also. Blessings to you for maintaining the site and continuing to share the truth from Billy Meiers.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 08:30, 3 May 2012 (BST)<br />
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to understand the BM puzzle one needs to have a more generic view; then the BM piece will fit in the logic of things.. accept the truth or live the consequences.. please analyze the following evidence and make your own mind:<br />
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1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV5AFFcZ-s <br />
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2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr7FJohm68o<br />
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3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp-P031C4Vg<br />
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welcome to the real world...<br />
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--[[User:James.org.oz|James.org.oz]] ([[User talk:James.org.oz|talk]]), australasia, 09:18, 6 February 2013 (GMT)<br />
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Hello, I would like to know what contact note mentions Billy's partial amnesia. I remember reading about this in the contact notes but I cannot locate the exact contact Note or Notes that discuss this partial amnesia after his apparent bout with the Flu?<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge Virginia, USA, 20:42, 22 February 2013 (GMT)<br />
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Drummerschlong, Just my two cents but, I believe that The Galactic Federation of Light is mentioned in the contact notes as being connected to the Baffath, Ashtar Command, well think of the name Ashtar Ash and Tar. Sorta Biblical Ash and Tar are not Light and Love.. Just saying. Lastly, Andromeda Council, Again, in the contact notes the Andromeda council are mentioned as a group that the Plejaren consult for advice.<br />
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Peace in Wisdom and many blessings to Billy for enduring the attempts on his life, the many people that joined his group only to turn on him, and his own wife that turned on him later. I firmly believe that she was affected by the Nano-Implant Technology known as Synthetic Telepathy Implants that has been used by the Lower Dimensional Races to Hypnotize and Control Younger Spiritual Races like the Human Race on Earth. You will not find much info about this technology anywhere but I can tell you that it is real and that if you use real focus during the meditation exercise that you can detect the implants, they flash bright lights in your eyes in a strobe light effect, this is used to enduce Hypnosis and brain wash people. It is heavily in use on our planet and is the main reason that so many have been blinded to the truth of spiritual wisdom over Materialism on Earth. Only when we recognize this very real and prevalent danger can we take action to defend against this control mechanism.<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge Va, USA, 18:46, 23 February 2013 (GMT)<br />
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I now know that the Empire of Destruction that works to destroy the truth, which cannot ever happen, have a technology known as Synthetic Telepathy Implants. I know that these are Nano-Implants and that they connect directly to our brain. These implants are capable of locating and destroying brain cells that contain certain memories and when this celular attack is taking place the body exibits signs of Flu like symptoms, including hot and cold sweats as the body attempts to kill any virus that might be causing this problem in the brain. They have used this technology to wipe out memories of Government employee's that exposed or were working in areas where advanced and Interdimensional technology is being developed to assist in the total domination of the Human Race of Earth and in cloning facilities in Deep Undergroung Military Bases all over the world. It should be known that these Humans and Non-Human life forms are a part of a Vast Empire that is truely only interested in the perversion and destruction of all natural life in the Light Universe that we live in. Earth is not the only planet they are attacking. It would appear that the Plejaren Federation would be a very wise choice for the Earth Human to learn from when the option is an empire the is 1000 times worse than the empire in the famous movie Star Wars.<br />
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We are in deep trouble. People are being fed drugs in the water, food, and now Aluminum is being sprayed into the sky to assist in the destruction of natural plant food sources and to block out the light of our Star. The Star Light of our sun, much like the light of the Candle flame is very important to our survival. I have been using the Meditation Exercise that Billy teaches and have advanced to meditate on the sunlight now. I use a convex mirror lense and stare at the reflection of the sun during the meditation and this is having an enormous and positive effect on my meditation exercise.<br />
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I try to teach others but I am innundated by Occult members of the Secret Intelligence Agencies and Police departments in my area. They know that I know the truth and they attack me just like they attack Billy Meiers. I am lucky to have found the truth. I try to share it but I am having much difficulty doing so with so many attacks. I will continue to focus on the Meditation Exercise and to try to teach others.<br />
The planes are constantly spraying what are dubbed Chemtrails over America which will also effect the rest of the world, not unlike the use of the Harp Weapon. Those that use this attack against us do not care about anyone else and they plan to continue until the planet is barron and all human life has been destroyed. I am sad to see so many people that have joined the Occult here in America. I see how the sheeple are hypnotized by the TV, drugs in the water and food, and all other forms of thought manupulation including Synthetic Telepathy Implants that are used for Hypnosis Programming during the sleep dream stage at night. The Meditation exercise can expose these implants, or just looking to the side of the sun either in reflection of a mirror or at Sunrise or Sunset and one will see a dark DOT that seems to flash like a strobe light, form over the Sun in their vision. This is the simple way to detect the Implant Technology. If you see the Dot form and appear to wiggle around or flash like a strobe light or computer projection then you have an implant. I believe that these implants have been used on Humans of Earth to keep us enslaved for much longer than Human Records exist. I am also trying to warn people about the Pole Shifts but again, Secret Intelligence Agents swarm on me and use the implant technology and other implants throughout my body to track my location and keep an eye on me and they will come directly to me and try to convince me that I am wrong, or will interupt any conversation I am having when someone is actualy listening and learning. When people listen, In swarm the Secret Intelligence and Occult members to discredit me or to distract me. Happens every time now. I have even caught them following me in my car or flying close by in a Helicopter. My family is implanted and are being programmed with the implants to doubt me and continue to try to tell me that I should just sign the Top Secret Papers and keep my mouth shut. Even my own dad asked me how did I know that the New World Order wasnt a good thing? I said, they Kill People and they implanted us!!<br />
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Thats No Good!!<br />
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I am not a violent person and violence is never the solution so I do not attack these occultists buty I will probably loose everything I own and end up living in the woods or worse. My Health is good because I eat healthy (Vegitarian) and I meditate and try to exercise for health.<br />
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Much Love,<br />
Peace in Wisdom,<br />
Kevin Gaylord<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge VA, USA, 21:08, 22 February 2013 (GMT)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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I am trying to teach people the Meditation Exercise but everyone is so drugged up on chemicals in the Water and Food that they are sleep walking in America. Although I try to share the information it will be too late for them when they realize what is happening. I will not stop ever. I will always keep trying to get through to people and I will continue to do the Meditation Exercise personally also. <br />
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I have been using Billy Meiers Meditation Exercise; I call it the Healing Meditation Exercise. After doing this meditation every day I realized that meditation on the reflection of the Sun (our Star) light was even more powerful than using the candle flame. I use a Convex Mirror and stare directly at the sunlight in the mirror. this does not burn my eyes and I am able to build enormous energy during this meditation. I realize that it will take time for the changes to take place and that it will take a long time for me to be able to use this energy to do more. But I must do it by myself, nobody can believe me when I tell them about the meditation. Some that do get attacked by their own family and told to stop. It is truly amazing the amount of control the Implants have over people. Of the two people I taught the meditation to, the first one's mother told him that if he was going to spend his time doing the meditation at night that he should join the Military and learn how to be a man. This was both Humiliating and Insulting to him. She then also told him to move out. The other friend also had some success with the meditation and when his mother found him meditating, she told him he was not allowed to burn candles in his room any more. Both people are of age but were living at home with their parents still. There are very few Adults in America that are ready for the truth. They simply cannot handle the truth, they suggest that I have a drink of alcohol or some other crap. I say to them that drinking alcohol is debilitating and is an insult to a person on Higher Spiritual Wisdom.<br />
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I am very grateful for the Billy Meiers information although I feel powerless to stop the destruction of Earth or Humanity of Earth, That feeling does not stop me from trying to interfere with the Occult Plans to kill us all and destroy all things natural on Earth.<br />
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I would like to offer to anyone that is interested that there are some very good Audio links to the Randolph Winters Interviews at this website: http://archive.org/details/rock_mausoleum<br />
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I do not have access to the books written by Billy Meiers but these audio links above provided some excellent information to get me started.<br />
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I live a healthy life now as I am a Vegetarian and I Exercise and I Meditate Daily. I try to teach others what I know but I am constantly inundated by Occultists and Secret Intelligence Agents where ever I try to teach people the Meditation Exercise or to wake them up to the many other things I know about.<br />
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To list a few. First is the Synthetic Telepathy Implants which are actually Nano-Implants. These implants attach directly to our brains using Nano-Tubes. They are actually Control Implants. The Military of the US was given the technology and they thought that they were receiving some new technology, only later did they realize that Everyone on the Planet has already been implanted. <br />
The Meditation Exercise when done properly can help you to detect these implants. Also another simple way to detect these implants is to look just to the side of the reflection of the sunlight. After your eyes adjust you will see a dark circle appear over the sun. Also you can more easily see this dark circle at sunrise or sunset. It is not a solid circle and it will appear to dance around over the sun. It is more of a strobe light but really the image of black. This is a projection directly into our brains in order to block our view of the Liquid light from the Sun (our Star). The Lower Dimensional Beings that are working with the Occult and Secret Intelligence Agencies wish to block our access to the healing light of our Star.<br />
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I have learned that the only way to remove and permanently destroy these devices is to grow strong enough spiritually to break the devices using our force of spirit. Any other way of removal will be insufficient because they will simply replace the implant. <br />
Some of the people that have been into the Deep Underground Military Bases have had their memories erased after their employment with the use of these Implants. The implant destroys brain cells and thus the memories of events. When this happens the body responds with Hot and Cold Sweats and signs that resemble the Flu. Later people will have a mild case of Amnesia. This has been documented by several people that were friends to employee's that worked in Deep Underground Military Bases or in Area 51 or S4, and also those that have been to the Moon and Mars Bases that were built by Humans Long before Recorded History. This was partly exposed in the Billy Meier Contacts.<br />
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The Implants are also program devices, they are used to project dreams into our minds when we sleep and try to program us and to block our natural dream process. They try to control people by generating a feeling of Fear and a desire to obtain Materialistic Possessions. They program people to shop, look at nudity, think about all things new like cars, house, relationships etc. They also work on people while they are awake to try to push them to certain thoughts. They seem to be focused on increasing Incest, Homosexuality and Lesbianism. This is in part, due to the Parasitic Human race called the Draconian. They are creating clones of Human Babies in the Deep Underground Military Bases and replacing Infants with the clones. Later the people wake up to a dead Infant and it is called S.I.D.S (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) This happens by the Millions each year. The Draconian Race take the Souls of the Infants and push them into a developing fetus of a child of the opposite sex. Thus creating the Spiritual Confusion that is referenced in the Billy Meier Contacts.<br />
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I have been using Billy Meiers Meditation Exercise; I call it the Healing Meditation Exercise. After doing this meditation every day I realized that meditation on the reflection of the Sun (our Star) light was even more powerful than using the candle flame. I use a Convex Mirror and stare directly at the sunlight in the mirror. this does not burn my eyes and I am able to build enormous energy during this meditation. I realize that it will take time for the changes to take place and that it will take a long time for me to be able to use this energy to do more. But I must do it by myself, nobody can believe me when I tell them about the meditation. Some that do get attacked by their own family and told to stop. It is truely amazing the amount of control the Implants have over people.<br />
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I am very grateful for the Billy Meiers information although I feel powerless to stop the destruction of Earth or Humanity of Earth, it does not stop me from trying to interfere with the Occult Plans to kill us all and destroy all things natural on Earth. <br />
<br />
I would like to offer to anyone that is interested that there are some very good Audio links to the Randolph Winters Interviews at this website: http://archive.org/details/rock_mausoleum<br />
<br />
I do not have access to the books written by Billy Meiers but these audio links provided some excellent information to get me started.<br />
<br />
I live a healthy life now as I am a Vegetarian and I Exercise and I Meditate Daily. I try to teach others what I know but I am constantly inundated by Occultists and Secret Intelligence Agents where ever I try to teach people the Meditation Exercise or to wake them up to the many other things I know about.<br />
<br />
To list a few. First is the Synthetic Telepathy Implants which are actually Nano-Implants. These implants attach directly to our brains using Nano-Tubes. They are actually Control Implants. The Military of the US was given the technology and they thought that they were receiving some new technology, only later did they realize that Everyone on the Planet has already been implanted. The Meditation Exercise when done properly can help you to detect these implants. Also another simple way to detect these implants is to look just to the side of the reflection of the sunlight. After your eyes adjust you will see a dark circle appear over the sun. Also you can more easily see this dark circle at sunrise or sunset. It is not a solid circle and it will appear to dance around over the sun. It is more of a strobe light but realy the image of black. This is a projection directly into our brains in order to block our view of the Liquid light from the Sun (our Star). The Lower Dimensional Beings that are working with the Occult and Secret Intelligence Agencies wish to block our access to the healing light of our Star.<br />
<br />
I have learned that the only way to remove and permanently destroy these devices is to grow strong enough spiritually to break the devices using our force of spirit. Any other way of removal will be insufficient because they will simply replace the implant. <br />
Some of the people that have been into the Deep Underground Military Bases have had their memories erased after their employment with the use of these Implants. The implant destroys brain cells and thus the memories of events. When this happens the body responds with Hot and Cold Sweats and signs that resemble the Flu. Later people will have a mild case of Amnesia. This has been documented by several people that were friends to employee's that worked in Deep Underground Military Bases or in Area 51 or S4, and also those that have been to the Moon and Mars Bases that were built by Humans Long before Recorded History. This was partly exposed in the Billy Meier Contacts.<br />
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There are many advanced technologies in these locations, Cloaking suits, transporter technology, Ships such as the Baffath Triangle Ships. They are building these Triangle ships in Bulk and storing them in the Deep Underground Military Base in Topaho NM. They call these triangle ships the TR-3B Astra Locust and they they launch these ships to wreak havoc on the world the Locust shall Rise up out of the Ground.<br />
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They are keeping everyone drugged with drugs in the Tap Water and therefore any food cooked using Tap Water. They are trying to shorten the Human Life Span with Growth Hormones in all of the Meat. Since Bovine Growth Hormone (BGH) is put into the Cattle it is also in the Milk. I now drink only Organic Milk, Specificly Horizon's Organic with DHA Omega 3 in it because the Omega 3 helps me to keep focus during my meditation exercises.<br />
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Also they are spraying Aluminum Particles into the sky daily over America, but like the Harp Device the effects will have an impact on every country of the world. The Aluminum particles will block our access to Starlight or the light of our Star (the Sun). This will have serious Health Ramifications on all life on the Planet.<br />
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It seems that these Occult organizations have plans to destroy all life on the Planet, Plants, Animals, and Humans alike.. They are doing what the Lower Dimensional Beings want them to do, they are Managing the destruction of the Human Race on Earth as they have been destroying life on all plannets in this Universe. They wish to destroy all light in this universe and destroy all Stars that help us to live spiritual lives.<br />
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They have a Vast Empire in the Universe and it is a thousand times worse than the Empire in the Star Wars Movie. They want to destroy all life and be the only life left in the Universe and they plan to move on to the next Universe and continue the destruction and so on. They are the Empire of Destruction. Humans of Earth are so hypnotized and programed that they seem to only have 3 responses to my information, Fear, Depression, or Anger. Nobody asks me what can we do? If they did I would teach them about Billy Meiers and the Spiritual Wisdom that he has shared with us.<br />
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I am not a violent person and violence is never the solution so I do not strike out at these Occultists, but it still ammazes me that when I talk about how I am trying to wake people up to the Pole shifts they get a huge smile and say, well there is nothing we can do to save people except to pray to God. But the smile on their faces tells me that they can't wait for all of the blind people to suffer and scream in pain and misery as they slowly die the most horrible deaths. These people seem to be so happy and ready to sit around and eat popcorn while they watch the pain and misery. They truely care about nobody and they seem to be happy to have sold their souls and are ready to experience the end of their spiritual existance. I don't even know if that is possible but if it could be, they want it. They want their Spiritual energy to be eaten by lower dimensional beings and for their consciousness to be lost for all eternity. I have to assume that they are Hypnotized and have not real idea what they are happy about.<br />
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Still I will continue to have hope and teach as many people as I can reach in this very tiny area that I have access to.<br />
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Peace in Wisdom<br />
Kevin<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge Va, USA, 23:21, 22 February 2013 (GMT)<br />
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I now know that the Empire of Destruction that works to destroy the truth, which cannot ever happen, have a technology known as Synthetic Telepathy Implants. I know that these are Nano-Implants and that they connect directly to our brain. These implants are capable of locating and destroying brain cells that contain certain memories and when this celular attack is taking place the body exibits signs of Flu like symptoms, including hot and cold sweats as the body attempts to kill any virus that might be causing this problem in the brain. They have used this technology to wipe out memories of Government employee's that exposed or were working in areas where advanced and Interdimensional technology is being developed to assist in the total domination of the Human Race of Earth and in cloning facilities in Deep Undergroung Military Bases all over the world. It should be known that these Humans and Non-Human life forms are a part of a Vast Empire that is truely only interested in the perversion and destruction of all natural life in the Light Universe that we live in. Earth is not the only planet they are attacking. It would appear that the Plejaren Federation would be a very wise choice for the Earth Human to learn from when the option is an empire the is 1000 times worse than the empire in the famous movie Star Wars.<br />
<br />
We are in deep trouble. People are being fed drugs in the water, food, and now Aluminum is being sprayed into the sky to assist in the destruction of natural plant food sources and to block out the light of our Star. The Star Light of our sun, much like the light of the Candle flame is very important to our survival. I have been using the Meditation Exercise that Billy teaches and have advanced to meditate on the sunlight now. I use a convex mirror lense and stare at the reflection of the sun during the meditation and this is having an enormous and positive effect on my meditation exercise.<br />
<br />
I try to teach others but I am innundated by Occult members of the Secret Intelligence Agencies and Police departments in my area. They know that I know the truth and they attack me just like they attack Billy Meiers. I am lucky to have found the truth. I try to share it but I am having much difficulty doing so with so many attacks. I will continue to focus on the Meditation Exercise and to try to teach others.<br />
The planes are constantly spraying what are dubbed Chemtrails over America which will also effect the rest of the world, not unlike the use of the Harp Weapon. Those that use this attack against us do not care about anyone else and they plan to continue until the planet is barron and all human life has been destroyed. I am sad to see so many people that have joined the Occult here in America. I see how the sheeple are hypnotized by the TV, drugs in the water and food, and all other forms of thought manupulation including Synthetic Telepathy Implants that are used for Hypnosis Programming during the sleep dream stage at night. The Meditation exercise can expose these implants, or just looking to the side of the sun either in reflection of a mirror or at Sunrise or Sunset and one will see a dark DOT that seems to flash like a strobe light, form over the Sun in their vision. This is the simple way to detect the Implant Technology. If you see the Dot form and appear to wiggle around or flash like a strobe light or computer projection then you have an implant. I believe that these implants have been used on Humans of Earth to keep us enslaved for much longer than Human Records exist. I am also trying to warn people about the Pole Shifts but again, Secret Intelligence Agents swarm on me and use the implant technology and other implants throughout my body to track my location and keep an eye on me and they will come directly to me and try to convince me that I am wrong, or will interupt any conversation I am having when someone is actualy listening and learning. When people listen, In swarm the Secret Intelligence and Occult members to discredit me or to distract me. Happens every time now. I have even caught them following me in my car or flying close by in a Helicopter. My family is implanted and are being programmed with the implants to doubt me and continue to try to tell me that I should just sign the Top Secret Papers and keep my mouth shut. Even my own dad asked me how did I know that the New World Order wasnt a good thing? I said, they Kill People and they implanted us!!<br />
<br />
Thats No Good!!<br />
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I am not a violent person and violence is never the solution so I do not attack these occultists buty I will probably loose everything I own and end up living in the woods or worse. My Health is good because I eat healthy (Vegitarian) and I meditate and try to exercise for health.<br />
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Much Love,<br />
Peace in Wisdom,<br />
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== david said ... ==<br />
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i wondered why he would take a photo of tv screen when he had so much other undeniable evidence, this seems like an unlikely but rational explanation as it would be seem very out of character 2 forge the photo, ive read alot of know it all debunkers on youtube and beyond with there silly ''rational'' explanation, the miniture trees etc! i get angry at people like that but i guess they are on there on path. i just dont know why they go to the bother if they rnt interested!<br />
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== zameen said ... ==<br />
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People go to such lengths to cover up and or try to falsify the truth in order to keep profit streams alive. A disgusting practice but a reality nonetheless<br />
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Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics. and other unique proofs and have them circulate safely around the world as, Billy, his associates, on ground and above and I would like.. I guess I inadvertently lied to a few of my friends about some of the photos. I hope one day soon we ,(all of us around the world) can get together without any uncomfortable thoughts/feelings of deceit or any prejudged feelings of hate, jealously and anger towards next man 'and or entity.' Peace/Wisdom/Love/Truth. To the Plejaren Fed. and their wonderful associates. <br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I agree TCFelon but if they had to capture everybody who falsifies Billy's work and those that lack sincerity and genuineness it would probably take all eternity. They will probably only stop the most heinous pretenders. :) The photos are rather interesting because they say that Asket and Nera are from another universe thus they don't mind there photos being here. Due to the creativity and level of lowness some beings can reach they altered it so they are dancers on a talk show. That calls for a Billy uppercut to the nose. j/k<br />
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== tom said ... ==<br />
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Próby zamachów na Zycie Billego świadczą o niczym innym tylko o tym, że mówi on prawdę. To samo tyczy sie zafalszowywania jego zdjęć. <br />
Ci którzy znają temat szaraków i replitalian wiedzą kto to są "ludzie" w czerni... im najmniej zależy na poznaniu przez ludzi prawdy, prawdy, która przecież wyzwala, wyzwala z więzów zniewolenia..<br />
Meier od samego początku, jak zapoznałem się z jego osobą, wyzwala we mnie zaufanie... Jest zupełnie niepodobnym do tych co gonią za władzą i towarzyszącą jej ułudą pieniądza. Zna wiele praw duchowych i sam żyje wedle nich, więc mało prawdopodobne jest to, że próbowałby robić jakiekolwiek fałszerstwa, a tym bardziej, jak niektóre źródła jemu zarzucają, w celu zdobycia sławy lub majątku.<br />
Bardziej mają powody ku temu ci, którzy obawiają się zaistnienia tych praw w ludzkich sercach i umysłach, bo to rujnuje ich starania o zniewolenie gatunku ludzkiego.<br />
Więcej niczego chyba nie trzeba tu dodawać. Przynajmniej ode mnie to wszystko.<br />
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tom ist from Poland ;) <br />
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BEAM is awesome, thank you ! controlledfollymaker@gmail.com<br />
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== Matt C. said ... ==<br />
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This guy is a Fraud. His website is down, and he's far from credible. This is the person who would says that the aliens sent the blueprints for their (trashcan lid looking) UFO's to the wrong people who ended up making them into trash can lids... seriously?<br />
David doesn't know the difference between There and Their, so his opinion is out. <br />
Is it harder to cover up the "truth" or to fall into the cross hairs of a conman?<br />
I'm going with Occam's Razor on this one. This solution is the simplest, obvious, one; this man is a fraud. <br />
This post will probably be deleted. Just saying...<br />
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== Neckel said ... ==<br />
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no your comment won't get deleted.......... haha it is always interesting to see people who come with information from second or even third hand and make judgments about others without having a clue of the person itself...... this is present in almost everyones life and i bet some judge you also in the same way. I bet you come after me when i do a "spelling" error like David did...... if one has nothing else to offer then one goes after the small and unimportant things, right ;)). If you find sth. with a higher ethic and a higher sense of moral then we can talk again. (Do not come with religions, most of them preach love and make war.) I wish you good luck in your search for the truth.<br />
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== DRN said ... ==<br />
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Couple things I don't understand. These are not in any certain order. <br />
1. You sell these photos. So Wouldn't any copy predating 1984 be of the original photo? And if so, how similar to the forgery are they?<br />
2. How did you find out Mr. S was working for the MIB and when? <br />
3. If Mr. S disappeared one day without a trace, how did his organization learn of his death?<br />
4. If Billy was told in 1984 these were forgeries, but yet forgot due to amnesia sustained in 1982, how was he able to recollect the origin of his nickname and the first and last name of the woman who gave it to her during an interview in 1982? Was it selected amnesia or partial?<br />
5. If you have a photo of Mr. S and factual evidence he worked for MIB, why not release that info? seems it would clear some up some of the misconceptions.<br />
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In question 3 when i say "his organization" I mean billy's. <br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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If I understood correctly MIB is not Will Smith or Tommy Lee Jones OR from our planet. They are from the Sirian region from an alternate time space bred to cause headaches on Earth. If this info is false however there is only one solution to ponder. Is Billy really Billy or is hea fake Billy? In that case arrest Billy, Asket, Nera, we have there photos and Quetzal, Ptaah, Semjase and send them to the prison planet for questioning. No one is exempt from breaking the rules and escaping universal security. :)<br />
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==<br />
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There was a force of renegade Sirians known unofficially as the "men in black," and they were captured in a sting operation by Sirian security personnel in 2006, while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia."<br />
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The Earthly counterparts of the MIBs are real and were set up in the late 1940s to create fear in the minds and hearts of members of the public, military UFO witnesses, as well as the establishment (Forrestal for example) who may seek to reveal the truth about UFOs visiting this planet...which the Truman administration decided to clamp down upon...<br />
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Asket, Nera and Billy having their photos taken together sounds very recreational, but was actually intended to serve a highly useful purpose in furnishing objective evidence that "aliens" are actual relatives of earth humans and not "bug-eyed monsters," as depicted by the media, with some deliberation I might add...<br />
Indeed, there are far more points of commonality that such photos would provide, especially considering the beauty of the women selected and the fact that they were relatives from the DAL universe...(Asket.)<br />
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Unfortunately, this benign intent was muddied by the cruel MIBs, using those doubles from the US show...rendering the pix null and void..<br />
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A shame Billy did not realise sooner that the photographer (with a little persuading) had conned him with fakes.. <br />
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== MarksmanR said ... ==<br />
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Drekx, you twist truth with false tales.<br />
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"while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia.""<br />
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^ you made that up, it is not part of FIGU material, Cydonia doesn't exist.<br />
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==<br />
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MarksmanR,<br />
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Cydonia is a well known region mapped by Earth astronomers and astro-cartographers and named by them; "cydonia." So your ignorant claims of "false tales," are falsehoods in themselves and I don't like your tone...<br />
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First of all, FIGU material is not a new religion that demands blind obedience from it's "followers."<br />
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Second, the Plejaren do not always expect you to follow everything in the reports, as if it were holy rit.<br />
You are supposed to supplement their data with your own, when possible. So if mention is made of X, you should appreciate it's correlation to Y.<br />
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Thirdly, the contact reports do mention the very "sting operation" I mentioned, that ocurred at the Cydonia region complex of monuments upon the Martian surface...<br />
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I'll attach the contact report by Ptaah for your perusal and education....<br />
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http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Men_in_Black,_Mars_and_Meteors<br />
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TCFelon said:<br />
"Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics"<br />
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Drekx response:<br />
The Sirians did capture their own renagade MIBs in 2006, ending a dangerous operation against the Plejaren programme with Meier...<br />
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So contrary to popular belief, the Sirians are well known allies of the Plejaren, even if this is not mentioned much in the contact notes, for whatever reason...<br />
The rare exceptions being contact reports 311 and 471...grateful to them for that coverage, so thanks to Billy and Ptaah.<br />
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Now with reference to the Earth human MIBs...they are operatives for the American Military-industrial complex of corporations...<br />
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Under the laws of human freewill and non interference, neither the Sirians nor Plejaren were able to prevent their mischief, at the time of the Nera/Asket photo fix..<br />
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However, with rising human consciousness and full Sirian mandate, that right to protect this planet's people with fairness, is increasingly placing pressure on the evil doers who run the NSA, MIBs, etc, etc...<br />
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Maybe if Meier were allowed to try this again, although the Plejaren would not want to risk his life, or that of his family...<br />
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It really is dependent on a change in the way this planet is secretly governed, so politics and economics require to be addressed..<br />
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Incidentally, there are no ET rulers running the human elites, no "reptiles," etc...just bad human beings running banks, governments, corporations and security..<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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how can we see the real pictures .<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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Ashegheaty, Theyfly.com has some nice pictures.Don't worry about photoshopping the pictues Asket AND Nera according to reports are in the DAL universe and cannot be affected by our Earth degeneracies. :)<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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i meant real pictures of asket , i searched the entire internet and couldnt find any real pictures of here , can any one help .<br />
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--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 01:52, 5 September 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Jamesm said ... ==<br />
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Ashegheaty, I think only Billy knows which one is real since he met her face-to-face. But with this in mind it could be the one on the left below: [[File:The real asket.png]]<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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thanks jamesm , i guess those are the long ear lobs that she has . so the timmers have longer earlobs just like the pleiadians . or maybe this is semjase .are you sure this is asket the lady from trillions of light years away , the twin universe of ours .?<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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another question :the pleiadians can time travel so they can travel to the future so much that they can see when our universe has became an absolute absolutum but they say they cant go beyond the seventh great time .so thats only 15 thousand trillion years from now and still a long way for us to become an absolutum , whats there limitation .and the other thing is they know whats gonna happen to humanity in the next 100 , 200 and 1000 years .and if we are going to destroy our self<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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You can tell through the eyes. It is best to meet them in person because looks can sometimes be manipulated. If you were to meet someone and see natural eye movement relating to certain topics and how they react you will know if they are genuine or fake.:)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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The truth is beautiful. The Truth is that Billy should be given a Hero Status for enduring all he has in order to bring this information to the world. I am trying to spread the word of all that has happened and give poeple hope as well as to bring the other truth of Roswell NM. Bob Lasar, Edgar Fouche, Phil Schneider, Gary Mckinnon, Norwegian Politician, and Billy Meier and the Pleiadian Message.. Saalome.<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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It's so easy to determine who is Asket by using your 6th sense of intuition. With many of BEAM's materials, such "hidden" connections are to be discovered by your inner-self, devoid of ego or assumptions that many restrict themselves unfortunately.<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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I agree 110% with Hawaiian.............or maybe not.:)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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I agree, the fact that such effort went into forgery of the Photo's of Asket and Nera are more proof that the contacts are & were real. I have personaly seen evidence that the US Government is in search for Plejaren (The good ones) and that they are working with the Baffath sect of Plejaren. It is a sickening truth to me that I live in a country that would sell their own people for technology but it is the truth. They have gone so far as to work with other Dark Ones and combine technologies and use them to try to control the masses. To date this has been a success, however I and a few others have come forward to provide proof that we are being implanted with control devices that actualy prevent us from meditating and push negative thoughts on us as well. I share this info through my website on YouTube when asked, just goto my channel, sweet6b9. Peace & Wisdom Billy Meier. You are a blessing to the Human Race.<br />
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What an utterly preposterous and lame excuse!<br />
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Meier has been caught red-handed faking these and the dinosaur photos.<br />
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Do you people have no ability to think critically?<br />
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Hi CriticalThinker.<br />
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I've read all of your comments and my thinking has told me that you most likely don't even know what critical thinking means. If you do, your posts are not showing that at all. The word "critical" in the context of critical thinking does not mean negative or disapproving or denigrating thinking, which is what the majority of your posts are based on. You should start representing your nickname a little better by educating yourself on what critical thinking actually means by studying this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking<br />
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I agree with Sanjin, it has already been made clear in the contact notes that the photo's were faked and returned to Billy and that at a later date that Quetzl destroyed them all due to the numerous forgeries. In fact they also mention how it was proven that the forgery of Asket & Nera was not taken from a TV Screen as they tried to claim, that upon closer inspection you could not see the 3 color pixilation that would have appeared if it had been taken from a TV Set. CriticalThinker sounds like a Disinformation Agent, why would someone who feels this is untrue even bother to create an account or leave messages? They wouldn't! Peace & Wisdom<br />
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Can anyone tell me if the galactic federation/ashtar command/andromeda council are real or disinfo?<br />
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Criticalthinker hahahahahahaha thats the funniest name that is filled with your hypocrisy you are a disinfo jackwagon and dont even know it....who brainwashed you? You must be from the U.S.<br />
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To Critical Thinker, aka daisycutter. The pterodactyl photos are not the same. I tried to point that out to you but you banned me from your youtube site as do all the tards who don't want any views which are aren't in agreement with their own views. There are about 10 differences between the pictures. I guess you don't have an eye for detail.<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Sheila - I have a youtube site also, it is the same name as on here, sweet6b9. Feel free to contact me there or send a message if that is still possible with the new layout. I seriously think they changed it to make it harder for me to share the meditation info or the other info I share regarding William Cooper and Phil Schneider who also spoke about Billy Meiers contacts being real. Have you used the Meditation Exercise precisely the way that Billy said to do it? I would be interested in sharing info if you have or had any difficulties. I have some suggestions that help people to stay focused during the meditation.<br />
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JamesM - I cannot leave a reply to you on Main Page? I appologize if I deleted anything, I may have been correcting my own text and certainly did not realize that I had deleted anyone elses text so again I appologize. Apparently there are some Disinfo Agents on here (MIB) and they have tried to ridicule what I know. I will not argue with them. Billy's contacts were very real and I found the proof while working for the U.S. Government. This led me to the Meditation Exercise Billy provided to us. This has been a life changing realization and things have happened. I respect all that Billy has to say and I only hope that others can also think logicly and realize that in the contact notes when they told Billy that they could not discuss what was happening in America it was to protect him. Things are bad here, I am tring to wake people up here but it is slow going. I am not alone. Feel free to contact me. I wish we could leave personal messages for each other on this website so I could speak to individuals here. I would have put this in a personal message to you instead of posting it so I appologize for this also. Blessings to you for maintaining the site and continuing to share the truth from Billy Meiers.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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to understand the BM puzzle one needs to have a more generic view; then the BM piece will fit in the logic of things.. accept the truth or live the consequences.. please analyze the following evidence and make your own mind:<br />
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1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV5AFFcZ-s <br />
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2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr7FJohm68o<br />
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3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp-P031C4Vg<br />
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welcome to the real world...<br />
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Hello, I would like to know what contact note mentions Billy's partial amnesia. I remember reading about this in the contact notes but I cannot locate the exact contact Note or Notes that discuss this partial amnesia after his apparent bout with the Flu?<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge Virginia, USA, 20:42, 22 February 2013 (GMT)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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I cannot translate the information but my family has a friend in Germany named Heinzbernd Padberg who has learned broken english and regularly contacts my parents and myself for holiday greetings and may be able to assist. Please contact me at sweet6b9@yahoo.com if you still require any assistance with this and I can contact him and see if he would be interested.<br />
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Sincerely,<br />
Kevin Gaylord<br />
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I am new age human.There is no temptation for me but food for my tempel.Everything informatiev i read of hear it feels like i told it because i understand wat needs to be understood but still i learn every moment more about the proceses of the universe.I have no one to share this knowlege with because is to complicated for the people around me.That´s why i contact you , if youre interest i would like to converse with you ?<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Low&Key - are you asking to talk to me or Billy?<br />
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If reptilians do not exist then tell me why Dr. johnathan Reed<br />
encounted this alien in the woods? This video is on youtube.com<br />
when you search for "johnathan reed"<br />
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgzY45odAO0<br />
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--[[User:Jay1010101|Jay1010101]] 02:45, 14 July 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Looks more like an android to me.<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Sounds like another case of dellusional asperations of those who precieve their dreams as some reality between themselves and some ET interaction presence.<br />
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He speaks of this ET "Freddie" as fearing earth humans because he considers them as low sub-culture beings of unpredictable behaviours. <br />
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Nothing constructive coming from this and the only assistance I would recommend is to take your medications and not spend too much time by yourself in a empty room where your mind is left to wander to dream up these fallacies. Creational laws and directives have already been properly addressed by BEAM and the Plejarens, why should some other ET, in this case "Freddie" be allowed to present any additional information on spiritual evolution or develpment to an insignificant person who is not a prophet with the spiritual incarnation of Nokodemjon, the oldest spirit form on Earth with direct connections to the pure spiritual realms of the first of seventh, the Arahat Athersata level?<br />
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This exercise does not make much sense at all other than to be aware of false teachings.<br />
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I'll be here all week.<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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That's good to know Zameen, lol.<br />
Aloha Hawaiian, remember those small little dwarf beings? I was watching a series yesterday about a guy who travels the world looking for oddities and he happened to find a shrunken body about 12 inches high. Since there was only one headhunter group in South America who could master this and apparently it is now a lost art (ick). I was wondering if you thought that maybe these shrunken bodies were in fact bodies of dwarfs and somehow captured while they were in material form? And therefore no shrinking involved.<br />
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Ajay, Reptilians do exist, It is my understanding that the reptilians that were on earth originaly were Benevolent and very advanced spiritualy. They were attacked by the Draconians Parasitic Race and they stole some of the DNA of the Reptilians to extend their lives because the Draconians are Dark and Negative and have destroyed their race with Anticreational Behavior. They steal DNA and Spiritual energy because they cannot feed on the Positive Spiritual Energy comming from the Higher Dimensions through the light of the Candle or the Sun. They can only feed on Negative Energy like Fear, Anger, Guilt, etc. So when we focus on Love and Compassion and Care and Sympathy it repells them. They cannot stand our positive vibrations, so keep meditating on Love for all life and the Light as the Higher Dimensions are feeding us spiritual energy through the light.<br />
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Remember to use Extreme focus during the meditations or it is pointless.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge VA, USA, 02:22, 31 October 2012 (GMT)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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All other opinions asside, I have seen the proof that these contacts are real as the US Government has extensive records related to the fact that these contacts are real. I do not have these records but I am attesting to this fact for all to see. They have and are having contact with the Baffath and are working with them as evidenced by the Black Triangle ships that are being seen world wide. For Video Evidence search Triangle UFO or TR-3B online or on YouTube.<br />
Peace & Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 23:52, 16 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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That metal is Aluminum and not Thulium. The EDS spectrum that Vogel shows corresponds to Aluminum with traces of Silver (see reference below). Thulium has a strong band at 1.462 KeV. This is very close to the Aluminum strong band at 1.486 KeV and without the "secondary bands" as Vogel himself noted. <br />
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I have experience with EDS X-Ray in Scanning Electron Microscopy; it is easy to confuse elements and, since there are no secondary bands, the metal is the very common element Aluminum and not the rare Thulium.<br />
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I'm surprise that in almost 30 years nobody noticed the mistake Vogel made in his analysis.<br />
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Reference: The "Thulium" Spectrum is shown at time mark 8:44 of the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4koTWaohZxc&feature=related . Again, that is Aluminum with traces of Silver and not Thulium.<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Well Gerswin2002, I guess that's your opinion. Vogel did note the secondary band (which was there) but somehow you claim it wasn't? Any nut job can come on here and make all sorts of claims. Come on, tell us your real name and qualifications. Sorry but having "experience" does not make you an expert. I think I'll go with the guy who had numerous patents based on information gleaned from investigation. How many patents do you have?<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 15:56, 11 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Sweet6b9, those black triangle craft are none other than your very own terrestrial black ops. They have been around for at least 30 years - no aliens involved. A former military person informed me he had seen ufo craft in a hangar as far back as the '50s. They were sworn to secrecy. He also said that it was common that U.S. military personelle were brainwashed after coming out of the bush to make sure they kept their mouths shut.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Sweet: <br />
Aluminum and Thulium do have very close strong band (1.486 and 1.462 KeV respectively), you can verify that in the links below:<br />
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http://www.radiochemistry.org/periodictable/<br />
http://www.edax.com/literature/periodic.aspx<br />
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Vogel himself says the following (9:16 time mark of the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4koTWaohZxc&feature=related ):<br />
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"Now, the remarkable thing that we noticed was that, yes we got this band here [points to the 1.462KeV] this is the only one that matched in the spectral analysis in the computer, but the secondary bands that are connected with it [points to the bands at 7.17 KeV and 6.34 KeV] were not present" And his spectrum reflects exactly what he says.<br />
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You can check what an EDS spectrum for Thulium looks like in http://www.cannonmicroprobe.com/XRay_%20Spectra.htm scroll down to find it. It looks nothing to what he shows.<br />
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The metal he shows is clearly Aluminum and not Thulium. The EDS computers, even today, get the element id wrong many times. Human intervention is required all the time for proper EDS element identification.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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"You can check what an EDS spectrum for Thulium looks like in http://www.cannonmicroprobe.com/XRay_%20Spectra.htm scroll down to find it. It looks nothing to what he shows." <br />
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Except for one band at presumably at 1.462KeV which I say is 1.486KeV.<br />
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Only solid, clear, and unambiguous evidence matters and not the person's credentials. Vogel DOES NOT have such evidence for Thulium. <br />
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By the way, if you have more EDS spectra presented by Vogel, I'd love to review them. Please post the links to them.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Sheila,<br />
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As a matter of fact, please direct me to any posted EDS X-Ray Spectrum data collected by Vogel either in print or in video. I'm extremely interested in checking his data. I have been looking on the internet for the spectra he captured and I cannot find it.<br />
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I'm more interested in his data than in his opinions.<br />
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Thanks,<br />
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Gerswin<br />
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--[[User:Gerswin2002|Gerswin2002]] 01:43, 12 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Well Gerswin, the specimen contained "very pure silver and very pure aluminum, potassium, calcium, copper, argon, bromine, chlorine, iron, sulfer and silicon" and "an astonishing mixture of almost all of the elements in the periodic table". So based on that information I'm sure you'll find them all. I don't have a link. So what is your purpose in all of this? And how much experience do you have with cold fusion?<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 05:19, 13 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Aloha Sheila,<br />
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I was going to spend some time doing research on Thulium, but decided you probably have a better answer to Gerswin2002 inquires which has just been demonstrated in the vast complexity of discrete elements that represents almost the entire periodic table including evidence micro-machining and indentations.<br />
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Even though if Gerswin2002 can prove that Thulium was actually Aluminum, does that ONE discrepancy invalidate the other elements that obviously are discrete in their unique characteristics bonded together Not but any heating processing (which would have destroyed their discreteness), BUT bonded by cold fusion, which is still NOT POSSIBLE by Earthly scientists!<br />
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Instead of waiting 30 plus years trying to discredit Vogel’s findings on this ONE element called Thulium, why hasn’t Gerswin2002 look into the other materials as well? Sometimes people are so obsessed on one belief or disbelief they forget to notice other things in life that keeps on evolving while they remain stagnated on this one issue in the vain hope of achieving the perfect solution. Nothing is perfect, otherwise there is no reason for creation to evolve further and that also applies to beliefs or dis beliefs.<br />
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So if Gerswin2002 wants to continue on his endeavors to prove Vogel’s findings on Thulium wrong and ignore the other more important materials that Billy and the Plejarens have brought forth, that is his prerogative and we wish him well in his efforts. I wouldn’t waste my time on something that is definitely not my problem since I’ve got better and more interesting things to do.<br />
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One thing that intrigues me about this metal specimen is what reason or reasons why it represents the entire periodic table of elements and being the hull of their spaceships which is metal, yet at the same time crystal, it must have much deeper meaning and/or purpose other than just being the outside material for their spaceships?<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 06:58, 13 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Hawaiian and Sheila,<br />
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As a matter of fact, I also analysed the other EDS X-Ray spectrum where he claims that the sample contains many elements. This spectrum is found in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4koTWaohZxc&feature=related at the time mark of 7:12. <br />
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Here he Vogel identifies the elements Silicon (1.740KeV), Sulfur (2.307KeV) , Iron (0.706 KeV, 6.403 KeV) and then he goes on to say that the there are many other very small elements bands and that he did not attempt to identify them. Si, S, and Fe may very well be there, but the rest of the spectrum are not element bands, but what in EDS Spectroscopy is known as Continuum Bremsstrahlung Emission. This radiation, though part of the EDS X-Ray Emission, does not contain useful information about the elements in the sample. See the references below for more info:<br />
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bremsstrahlung<br />
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/xrayc.html <br />
http://www.scribd.com/doc/31759852/7-EDS-WDS-X-Ray-Elemental-Micro-Analysis-Electron-Microscopy-and-Diffraction<br />
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So, in the mentioned EDS Spectrum, Vogel really only identifies three elements and he incorrectly interprets the continuum Bremsstrahlung emission with a whole bunch of element bands together.<br />
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This is the only EDS Spectrum produced by Vogel that I'm aware of where he tries to prove that there are many elements in the sample. If you have more evidence in the form of EDS Spectra (where he shows all the elements Sheila mentioned), I would love to see it. <br />
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--[[User:Gerswin2002|Gerswin2002]] 15:50, 13 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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I agree with your comments Hawaiian and had much the same feelings as you. Gerswin is not the first and will not be the last. He refuses to state his full name and position and whether he has any patents or whether he has any experience in cold fusion (LOL, I was looking forward to his reply on that but again he never answered that question). <br />
Gerswin, why don't you try this. Get a hold of the American government and find out if you can test the metal of the craft which crashed at Roswell. Then you could test it out first hand. Let us know your results.<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 17:26, 13 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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OK, I hereby retract all my arguments on the grounds that I do not have as many patents as Marcel Vogel nor do I have his credentials. I did not find a remove option in my account, how can I delete them?<br />
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Now, I assume we all agree that it is OK for anyone to look at the evidence. I really need more references either in print or video where Vogel's data is presented. I already have the videos Contact and The Beamship. Are there more videos of Marcel Vogel showing his EDS X-Ray spectra?<br />
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How about Vogel's notebook, the one he shows in the video? does anyobody know where this notebook is? are there digital scans of it somewhere? The Metal Alloy section of this webpage seems to concentrate more on listing Vogel's patents than on the actual evidence he presented on the subject. By the way, none of the links to his IBM patents work.<br />
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--[[User:Gerswin2002|Gerswin2002]] 21:23, 13 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Again Gerswin - for what purpose? Are you just another debunker looking for his 15 minutes of fame? Well good luck with that.<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 01:16, 14 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Sheila. Thanks anyway, I think I got all the information that I need. I'm writing an article for The Skeptical Inquirer. When it is published, you can finally see my credentials.<br />
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For now, feel free to check my complete analysis on our website:<br />
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http://www.iigwest.com/investigations/meier/metal_analysis_deconstruction.html<br />
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By the way, if you Google "Billy Meier Metal Samples" or "Marcel Vogel Metal Samples", our website shows first.<br />
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Cheers...<br />
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--[[User:Gerswin2002|Gerswin2002]] 04:45, 14 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Well that settles it then, you really are a nobody. Oh well, hope you enjoyed your 15 minutes and have a nice life.<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 05:29, 14 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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whatever you say Sheila. But I'm first on google search. <br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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...and you are a nobody too.<br />
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--[[User:Gerswin2002|Gerswin2002]] 05:44, 14 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Gerswin, I never claimed to be "someone" like you did. And quite frankly no one really cares about your damn ego. Funny on that stupid post of yours you claim that there are metal samples on earth that have all the elements, but you fail to provide any proof of their existence. LOL<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 16:41, 14 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Here's a little background on what's going on here:<br />
http://theyflyblog.com/breaking-iig-skeptics-retract-claims-against-meier-case%E2%80%A6again/12/10/2011<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 16:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Thanks for letting me know about this communication from Jack Sarlo. I will get that straighten out immediately.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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I totally forgot to email Jack Sarlo back letting him know about the update.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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"you claim that there are metal samples on earth that have all the elements"<br />
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That's not what I said, this is exactly what I say: "It is quite common to find samples in the natural world that contain a wide variety of elements in them." and I present proof of it with an EDS Scan I took myself of a plain uninteresting rock. I detected Si, Al, Fe, O, Mg, Ca, and C. If I bleach the rock, I add Cl to it; if I rub toothpaste on it, I add Flourine and Nitrogen. All those will show in the EDS Scan and I can make the sample look as though all those elements are "bonded together while preserving their own identity".<br />
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In the BEAMSHIP, Vogel shows evidence of Fe, S, Si, Ag, and Al. There is no Tm, as he claims. He incorrectly misinterpreted the Bremsstrahlung emission and I show exactly why. So far, my earthly rock has more elements than Vogel's samples. <br />
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If there is an EDS X-Ray scan taken by him where he shows all the elements of the periodic table, it is NOT in The Beamship or in Contact. I will keep looking.<br />
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--[[User:Gerswin2002|Gerswin2002]] 04:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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From your own turf:<br />
http://theyflyblog.com/breaking-iig-skeptics-retract-claims-against-meier-case%E2%80%A6again/12/10/2011/untitled-1-copy-2<br />
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This is one of your own documents people. There is it: "Thulium, remarkably, showed only the primary band spike for that element--[in bold] no secondary bands existed".<br />
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That element was Aluminum, which has no secondary bands, and NOT Thulium. Thank you Michael Horn, I was worried that I wasn't listening right to the audio in the video.<br />
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--[[User:Gerswin2002|Gerswin2002]] 04:16, 15 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Well that's a sure sign of schizophrenia, arguing with yourself. I think you should get yourself checked out Gerswin. You have again failed to prove the existence any metal sample which contain ALL the elements. Sorry but your rock only has 7 elements or perhaps 9, if you fudge it (which you seem to be real good at). But nice try though.<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 02:06, 17 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Well, I'm done with the analysis and reproduced Vogel's results in full with earthly samples. Now, to write my article for the Skeptical Inquirer. <br />
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It was never my intention to convince anyone here to how much you all were fooled by Meier and Vogel. Quite the contrary, the more people believe them today, the more likely my article is to be published on SI.<br />
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So, please, don't stop believing. <br />
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--[[User:Gerswin2002|Gerswin2002]] 20:43, 18 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Gerswin2002,<br />
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In your own quote “Well, I'm done with the analysis and reproduced Vogel's results in full with earthly samples.”<br />
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So are you excluding the fact that Vogel has video evidence of rectangular micro machining with 90-degree angles (which never occurs in nature) surrounded by semi-circle indentations to indicate that some man-made apparatus was induced on this metal specimen?<br />
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It is obvious that you are not a scientist nor subject your “discipline” to rigid standards by discarding evidence to “suit” your own personal agenda. If Skeptical Inquirer does print your article, then it only shows how unreliable their reputations are.<br />
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At least we can say that Charles Darwin was a bonafide scientists, although he did “massage” his theory of evolution of man coming from the apes by filing down some bone fragments to make it appear there was a corresponding link between them, at least he did not throw away or exclude any other evidence as in your case. <br />
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And lastly, I’m sure you are doing this for nothing, so how much and who is paying your salary or what compensation will Skeptical Inquirer or they cohorts give you in return for your “scientific investigation”?<br />
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Vogel got and asked for nothing in doing this investigation strictly out of scientific curiosity, I’m sure he knew of the consequences of making his findings public but went ahead as any scientist would in making discoveries.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Hi Hawaiian,<br />
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" Vogel has video evidence of rectangular micro machining with 90-degree angles" <br />
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Here is the SEM micrograph shown by Vogel in The Beamship:<br />
http://www.iigwest.com/investigations/meier/Metal-Samples-Deconstruction-version2_files/image042.jpg<br />
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This is at 7:59 of the video <br />
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4koTWaohZxc&feature=related<br />
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Is this the one you are talking about? this is the only picture taken with the scanning electron microscope that he shows (all others were taken with an optical microscope), or is it? I hope you are familiar with The Beamship. <br />
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If this is not the SEM pic you talk about, please point to me on this or any other video that shows the SEM picture where what you say is shown.<br />
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BTW, I would be lucky if any of the SI editors even looks at my article.<br />
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--[[User:Gerswin2002|Gerswin2002]] 03:20, 19 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Hawaiian,<br />
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If there is more evidence that I'm not including, absolutely let me know. I'd definitively love to see more SEM pictures and EDS X-Ray spectra from this sample taken by Vogel or anyone else.<br />
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Ivan A<br />
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--[[User:Gerswin2002|Gerswin2002]] 03:25, 19 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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You can now see my credentials.<br />
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http://www.openminds.tv/deconstruction-of-billy-meier%E2%80%99s-metal-samples-865/<br />
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--[[User:Gerswin2002|Gerswin2002]] 22:12, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Hey Gerswin, I think you're confusing us with people who actually give a crap about who you are or who you think you are. I am so unimpressed I didn't even check your link.<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 00:43, 14 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== RemR said ... ==<br />
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Hello Mr. Alvarado, aka Gerswin,<br />
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I checked your link to the article you posted on OpenMinds. Your argument is decent, when viewed topically and pseudo-critically. That being said, it also mimics the style of Meier's 'photo deconstruction' by fellow IIG member Derek Bartholomaus. When something looks similar to something else, that doesn't automatically mean that one has license to say that they are the same thing.<br />
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Also, even if the viewpoint about those metal samples is correct, which you have attempted to demonstrate many times here, that is only one aspect of the evidence in the case, and doesn't have any momentum when faced with the reality that there is so much more verifiable evidence, ALL things considered.<br />
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...It's like getting a big, bad, brand new Ford F-650 SuperTruck and driving it out onto some train tracks to prove that you can stop a slow-moving train with your impressive truck. It's just not going to happen, especially when you can't see/don't want to acknowledge the rest of the train, which curves around a bend and procedes to go back 10 miles further, and all of the train cars are full of either lead or coal. The truck is impressive, sure, but it's not going to stop the train, even if it's only going 2 mph. It might take 800 years to get to the train station, but it will get there, F-650 SuperTruck or not.<br />
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Thanks for reading my article. Unfortunately, the pictures that I used are direct screen shots from Beamship:The Metal. Do you know where I can get better quality pictures of Vogel's spectra and SEMs pictures? I have been looking all over the web for them and they are not in Wendelle Steven's Preliminary Report.<br />
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Sheila - I am aware that the TR-3B Astra Locust is a Military device but those are not the only Black Triangle ships as mentioned in the Contact Notes. The Baffath also use this configuration. This is not a coincidence. I was not Military, I was not brainwashed. But Yes, you are correct, The TR-3B is terestrial but it also uses Quasicrystals and that technology was given to them. They can change the color to match the color of the sky with these Quasicrystals to try to hide.<br />
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Sheila - I am not trying to argue with you. I fully support the truth of the Billy Meier contacts. Unlike others, I have seen actual proof of them and know that they were real. Also I have had success with the Meditation Exercise that was a Spiritualy Enlightening and Life Changing process and I am now in direct opposition to the Occult forces that are in control of the Financial Industries and Secret Intelligence Agencies of the world. They realy don't like me because I am slowly waking people up here in the US. I just wanted you to know that we are on the same side. I do not mean to sound argumentative in my comments. Please forgive this if It comes across that way in text.<br />
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"Were real" ...and are real, since the contacts are still occurring and will continue until Billy passes away from this life.<br />
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Hi Kevin, the last Bafath triangle ship was destroyed by Menara in 1978 after a brief pursuit. Yeah Menara, you go girl! So if you have evidence that there is still contact at this current time, I would be highly suspect of where that information came from. Just because it came from your US government, does not mean it's true. Could just be part of the disinformation campaign coming from the US that we've all become accustomed to. So I hope after reading the contact notes you have a better understanding of the facts? Yes keep on trying to wake up your American people, but don't use disinformation that is being spewed on a constant basis by those that are used as disinformation agents. You know, like all your CIA agents and other blowhards. Your damn CIA agents are actually the terrorists. In Columbia they felt they were above the law or were too cheap to pay the lady. Now you have a CIA double agent who is the new underwear bomber. Makes me think the last underwear bomber was also a CIA agent. Wouldn't put it past them. As with all gov't agencies, if they are at risk of losing staff because it's not that busy, they start making up stuff to do, to make themselves look busy, and make themselves look like they are doing something to stop it. Be careful that you do not give up your constitutional rights for the illusion of security.<br />
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Sheila, I am sorry to inform you that I do not provide my information based on information that I read or was told, I base what I say on what I have personaly seen and know. I don't know if the Baffath are still communicating with the US Government, but I do know that I have seen a couple of different Triangle Ships and the Baffath are not the only other race to use the black triangle ships.<br />
I know that there are sections of the CIA and other Secret Intelligence Agencies that are the Terrorists, I tell people what I know and try to share the info but they have implanted me and My body is producing a Radio Frequency and UHF/VHF frequency now and they always show up when I am talking to someone that is realy listening and start their Disinfo Puke to try to stop people from listening. I am slowly becoming skilled in detecting these Idiots and am developing the ability to defend myself and walk away, the best way to end a fight is to see it comming and walk away from it.<br />
I am not giving up anything but unfortunately the people are not making these decisions, they are like sheep to the slaughter here in the US. I live and walk among Sheeple here. I try to wake them up but it is difficult with so many agents following me and interfering with my life. It feels like I am alone here, I have detected the UHF/VHF frequencies in my Daughter and they have used the implant to turn her against me, She says mean things to me when I have been meditating and feel good and later I ask her why she said that and she says that she doesn't remember saying those things at all.. She is too young to know how to fight the implant like I do with the meditation exercise. She is a target and they use her against me just like they use so many other people against me in my family, friends, etc.. I won't stop thought because I heard someone say during one of my meditations that I would destroy them if they don't destroy me. So I feel pretty good knowing that I will be succesful in doing this without killing any of them because I don't believe in killing.<br />
PS. I like the last sentence, I have a poster that says this, Im guessing that you have seen it. I had it in my car when I was going to DC to join the Occupy DC group where I setup a Meditation Tent to try to teach people about the meditation and actualy ran into some Occultists that came into my tent and said realy stupid things to try to attack me, but they were having trouble focusing when they got near me. Haa, Haa, We are not Alone in this Battle for Love and Light.<br />
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Peace in Wisdom Billy. May we be responsible for our own actions and step up against those Dark Ones that are now in control in our Worlds Governments. They can be known as NWO, Illuminati, VRIL Society, Skull & Bones, and they convene at Bohemian Grove!! I have seen evidence to support all that you have given, here in the USA in the Government where I have worked. I am aware that the Plajaren came and offered their help but were treated poorly and turned away. Now the Dark Ones and the Grey are in control of our Navy & Airforce & Secret Intelligence Agencies. The Army is ill equiped to defend against their technology. My spirit is awake and I fight for my life, they steel my sleep and push dreams on me and they have implanted my body to try to prevent me from meditation. I have seen things all my life but tell no one until now.<br />
Billy, I need to let you know what is going to happen the way I see it. See YouTube for video "NASA Sun Objects", they seem to be destroying the sun. Is it possible the sun will turn Red and the Moon? The HAARP weapon has depleated our ionosphere. The ones in charge think they will live deep within the earth and on the Moon and Mars where we now have military forces. They are unaware that they are being deceived even though they have been lied to over and over. I tell them again and again but they do not care what I say.<br />
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Peace in wisdom Billy, You are a HERO in my book always and your message has saved my life so far! I have made mistakes but I try still.<br />
I fear Ptaah has been taken to Aldeberan for helping me. Something about violating the Covenant?? But I called to him to ask for help for the innocent that are being taken. You need not reply to that. I only hope I have the strength you had in the past to face my challenge ahead. You should know that the Black Delta ships are back and they are making more in Dulce NM in the USA close to a place called Area 51.<br />
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Can you help me with a land mark proximity of the 3rd Nuclear Facility in Iran!! Please..<br />
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Sorry, I am unfamiliar with any land marks in Iran. My appologies.<br />
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Things happen all the time but because now facts and figures get reported though out the world 1000 times faster than just 100 years ago ... because we here about every thing all the time as soon as it happens no mater where it happens at... we know about it with in mins. things always happen but thanks to radio TV the internet ect...we here about now and all the time over and over again...<br />
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i should add... things that happen now have happen 100 years ago 1000 years ago 10,000 years agoo a million years ago ./.. but now we just here about it now over and over again as soon as it happens ... things are getting worse are better... the world and its weather is just alive as a living world that makes changes to its self on a dailey bases<br />
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things arent getting worse ... ARE'NT ! <br />
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I was wondering if any of you psychics or enlightened ones know what will occur on 28/10/11. This date is coming up really fast and i'm getting worried.<br />
This is the official end date of the mayan calander and also for those of you who are into your numerology 2+8+1=11 therefore 11/11. This is significant I know it! <br />
What i've read so far seems to be very pessimistic. I try to remain a positive spirit none the less but I would love to know the truth about this date.<br />
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WHEN WE AWAKE WE HAVE TWO SIMPLE CHOICES, <br />
GO BACK TO SLEEP AND DREAM<br />
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Violetlight. hello and welcome to the BEAM wiki site:) I believe the answer's you seek are well written and logged here in the contact reports section. just use the search function and type in a search. I believe that Billy had explained that the Mayans stopped making the calendar primarily because their civilization was collapsing in on itself due to poor water supplies,devastating droughts, famine, and overpopulation, and they could no longer devote precious time to the calendar. according to this information, they did not possess any mystical knowledge of any sort and knew nothing of an "end of the world" scenario.<br />
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28/10/11 = 28th of October 2011, no problem the universe is saved once again. :) Just another day in oddworld Earth zone. <br />
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Thank you for you replies and I can say I finally know. I spent months piecing together the puzzle and trying to make sense of a childhood dream I never forgot. The dream was a kaleidoscope of many colours swirling around. Ulrika! The violet light has guided me all this time. Archangel Zadkiel and the amethyst. I never really thought anything of it until my dad passed away last December two days after my birthday and I put an amethyst bracelet in his hand the next day in the chapel of rest. On the way home his favorite song came on the radio. :)<br />
Anyway I looked this up a few months ago when I first heard about all the nibiru shindig and 2012 theories. Because the violet colour popped into my head. So I looked up the amethyst and lone behold archangel Zadkiel! :) So I now know my dad is o.k and it was something I did out of pure love and didnt even realise it. <br />
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I've always been interested in tarot and just general open-mindedness and I have to say the way things are perceived on tv or on the radio are shocking. IT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE AND DOES NOT REFLECT REALITY IN ANY WAY! YOU CANNOT LEARN ANYTHING FROM TV OR SCHOOL OR GOVERNMENT. We learn only by looking inside our souls to the depth of our hearts.<br />
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I know alot of you are going to think i'm crazy! But please I promise you there is something amazing for you all if you want it, not just for yourself but for the benefit of all. Thats the lesson in life. The Pleidians have and are continuing to be amazing and they deserve our gratitude. Thanks for your help guys! <br />
Accept the journey you are on and dont hide away from the dark. Face it without fear and you will be rewarded.<br />
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You can learn from TV, school, and government in certain way. Example would be school allows you to meet different people thus opening your eyes to each unique situation an individual has thus having a wider range of knowledge etc, and TV is great to learn cooking and such, governments of our planet well let's say it has a loooooooong ways to go before a correctly implemented structure but at least they are trying. :)<br />
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Violetlight - don't get confused with 20/12/2012 (or 12/20/2012 which ever date type you use), that's the end of the Mayan Calendar, not 28 Oct 2011. Although the 28th Oct is said to be important in the ongoing financial crisis we've had thrust upon us. It's believed our system will collapse by then (only a few days to go) and we'll be in survival mode in more ways than one. Hang on to your seats - we're in for a tough ride spiritually, financially and mentally. Other than that, I believe the Mayan calendar may just be like ours in some ways, it's near the end and so it begins again - nothing sinister there.<br />
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you are the same as the people that are trying to run this planet .and i think if you understand what the et.so called pladians have done in time past then they are at fault to.now you want to give a woman a pill to stop them haveing kids.and you did not want to stick your nose in .give the pill to the men of this world not the woman. you wont do a thing about the weopons and the people running this planet as you say that you are sticking your nose in.so what is giveing a woman a pill then. population my foot deal with the important things on this world first .like nuclear and biological stuff first.you pladians think the same way has the powers that be on this planet .BACKWARDS. so much for being the inteligent ones<br />
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i bet now you will kick me of this site,the soon as a guy speaks his mind of you go.well lets see.ptaah why is it that your family are charged with the earth .started with sfath then you then quintzel.then semjase.asket.its one family who do you talk to do you sit and talk to billy or do you go home and report to them about things .if people where free to work the land and have there own bit then we would not need the pill this planet if one looks after oners self will carry more .you have to work it so each one get a slice of land .there is planty of space on this planet. no lets just give a woman a pill. now listen in or out no more playing games like you are gods in or out help or note .if so then help with the important things if not then go home and let things be the way they are till the big bang.you are getting to my karma yet you wont talk to me or face me one to one .you will say are but we cant stick our nose in.but you give a woman a pill. you talk to billy great but what the hell can one man do not a lot .so i through billy know you are there well done is that it.even if the whole world knew you was there so what then .you still cant stick your nose in as you say.get all of us to meditate then what we still have to work and do things just to live .i am halve way through the goblet of truth and so far i have to say its very repetative stuff. i know there is no gods tin gods or anything like that god is in everyman yeha. but i am no more of a man now then when i started to read it .i can go on for hours i am at the end of my rope.contenplating life and it dont look good<br />
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I wont ban you as you are not being insulting or anything like that. You are speaking/writing your mind which is always good in my opinion (unless you are trying to protect someone from harm of course).<br />
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So you dont agree with the Birth Control ideas on this website? Is it because you think that it isnt overpopulated? Even when people live like animals in crowded, dirty slums. Dont you think everyone deserves to have a decent home with plenty of land around it so you can nurture nature with your own hands, head and spirit? I want everyone to live in peace without suffering and if that means birth control and higher taxes then I would gladly support. Weapons are also a problem I agree but anything can be a weapon in the hands of a psychopath and how do psychopaths come into existence? Does the trail of evidence nearly always lead back to an abusive childhood without love or wise parental advice on why we exist and our objectives in the universe? I think it probably does.<br />
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Why are you at the end of the rope? You sir/madam are a spark of Creation. We are part of the same being. If you suffer, so do I. Be neutral positive and remember that your problems are only passing. Even if you have a lifelong problem, it is only one life of millions you already have had and will have. And it can only get better as you reincarnate over and over until...pure spiritform existence where you can travel instantaneously anywhere in the Creation. Or so I'm led to understand. <br />
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hi james. fist i want to say that i am sorry to get at you or anyone. i get so angry sometimes when i here that a person as come up with a silly idea to the population of this planet is to give a woman a pill. i dont have kids but wish i did.but i would not vote to get a woman a pill when i would cladly take it. you see a woman as each month as you know a period .well to me that would be for those who are tring to have kids would be wrong its cruel to let a woman know she is born to have kids but cant how does a person tell the woman of this world you cant have kids anymore you cant.i think that you need to do a council of woman from here and from the dern planet so you can both talk and decide what is best.2 life for some people on this planet is bad yes but that is only because of the people that are in charge greed as taken a hold of this planet and it wont let go yet..i think i understand why billy cant tell us stuff yet the more i find out the more annoyed i get with the way life is.3 i really dont think that the planet is over populated i think that they gaver in city and towns to be close to one and another like a big family i think that if we all had the same size land to work on and develope things i thing might be different.have you herd of the thrase catch 22 well i beleive that a lot of people are caught up in it..birth control and higher taxes wont do it you will greate more bad people .yes i am a spark of creation i know that but at this time i feel that the more i learn about things the more my hands are tied and it gets to me that one cant help people. as for the life i had before i dont know of it was i good or was i bad i dont know so where is the learning if i cant remember.let me ask you this if a guy come to you and says on the 21 december you will have a solar flare .is that it how long what time will it knock out the lights will it brake stuff will the people go nuts what. you cant say crap like that to people with out given them more to go on to decide to get wood or place to go or by stuff to be ready for it.as for me i am 52 and my childhood was no picnic but i know not to pick up a gun or a knife i was picked on and beaten but i never wanted to kill a person i am not afraid of death iknow that life goes on .its the monetery system that you have to get rid of first... i see what they are trying to do .let the population go down before the monetery system collapses that way you have less death.a guy will kill a guy just to feed his kid but if the population was smaller you wont have that problem .james are you like me just a guy that asked questions who are you. i am sergio leone aka leslie carter... do you know billy or his friends or am i just talking to the mail man down the street.lol..sergio<br />
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james you gave me a page to read and i did read it.the worrie i have comes from billy on his site it says that we will have a flare solar flare 21 december 2012 now you know and i know that cant be stopped so we have to deal with it good .but my worrie is will it last a week a month or a year will i need more food should i buy more should i get more water or juice .or do i just say what the hell and just wait for the day. must get back to the goblet of truth .thx sergio out<br />
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Hi again Sergio, I understand what you mean about not allowing women to have kids but this is not what FIGU are proposing. They propose that the population can be reduced by having 7 year period of no births followed by 1 year of procreation/giving birth, followed by another 7 years of no births etc etc. Everyone can have kids as long as they meet the requirements, e.g. meet the minimum age requirement, get married first, dont have more than 3 kids, etc. <br />
I'm not going to prepare much for any possible disasters here in Scotland apart from maybe buy a lot of long lasting food and water such as rice, pasta, water bottles etc. Perhaps 1 months supply. In Scotland we never have droughts though so the probability of starvation is low.<br />
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You confused birth control with birth prevention. Birth control is a social project to limit the annual birth number, while birth prevention is an individual project to prevent the fertilization of female egg by male sprematozoa. The best way to do it, Blip, is not by giving pills to women, but by seriously applying The Great Law Of Coitus Interuptus, Blip.<br />
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thx james for the reply.yes it sounds like a good idea 7 years of 1 year on.if there is no pill and its done by the peoples concent then i agree... by the way lucky you to live in the north scotland what a great place .when you mean water rice and stuff the solar flare is so big that i think it will take out power and cars that are now running by engine management systems and all electrical stuff tv .computers and so on maybe even a satelitte or 2..and you made me laugh about the coitus interuptus.lets get all the guys to have bells on.. thx james for all your help.salome.<br />
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Hi Blip, do you know what the birth control pill does? It basically makes the woman's body think it is already pregnant and then her body doesn't release an egg. Therefore no pregnancy can take place. There's nothing wrong with that and is very liberating for women because sometimes we just cannot rely on men concerning birth control :) Personally as a woman, I would not allow either politics or religion to make that choice for me. It's a informed choice to be made by a woman and her doctor, with of course input from the significant other. It's wonderful for women to have that choice and does not interfere with a womans ability to have children later on, in the case of the world wide birth stop. You are fretting about the pill for nothing.<br />
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thank you sheila it is good to get a reply by a woman that is in the know.as a guy i have watched the senate in the usa and the british parliment debate abortion and a womans right to have or have not kids.but i think that there should be a womans group that should debate it not men . but thx for your reply i wish you well.i am now for the birth control i in my stupidness never went to the bottom of the page that said 7years of and 1 year on.i just thought without thinking that they had just decided to give a woman a pill to stop haveing kids and i thought that it was unfare but i now know what they are trying to do. sorry to all.next time i will read up more lol<br />
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hello. ok first billy you kepted that one a secret .the galactic federation of light.cool<br />
if all goes well we will be in middle earth and things will change. cant wait. really looking forward to meeting all the galactic people .and to see who i was and what happen to me in past lives .it is almost to much to take in.but i need help i cant seem to meditate its so hard i try at the times you say but i guess i am waiting for a reply but not getting one.also when you tell people that things are going to happen and we will be all free and that et will help us to change and so on they look at you like you should be in a hospital lol.stillolypics are here soon and i love watching them .billy and the gang thx for all you have done and the rest of the federation that is working to give us a better live .love you all sergio<br />
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Billy have you heard " the thrive movement" this will help assist. The light tribe in higher conciousness its a 2 hour you tube movie. Everything is exposed for all to see, to learn to hear. Namaste <br />
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Billy have you heard " the thrive movement" this will help assist. The light tribe in higher conciousness its a 2 hour you tube movie. Everything is exposed for all to see, to learn to hear. Namaste <br />
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--[[User:Lrballard|Lrballard]] 12:34, 16 April 2012 (BST)<br />
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Blip1959 - I would like to offer you some help. There is a reason you are having trouble meditating. This is due to the Implant Technology that has been put in all of our bodies. Try this to get focus. Put some headphones on, play a copy of the 528 Hz Frequency on repeat at full volume. This will help to train your brain to ignore other thoughts. Keep your focus on the candle flame in your minds eye while repeating the word Sun. Be patient. You will not get a reply in the way you expect but it will come. It took me 2 hours of refocusing during this meditation with the sound playing at full volume before I was able to keep my focus and then I heard a computer sound in my mind. This was not normal or natural and there was no computers aroud that could have made the sound. So the focus worked and the meditation was working but thats when I realized that I had an implant that was designed to prevent me from keeping my focus and that it was what I was fighting when I had to keep pushing all of the other thoughts out of my mind. Someone doesn't want us to be succesful in our meditation. But I believe we can still beat it. Spirit over Computer. Keep up the meditation exercise and realize that it is an exercise. You have to do it every day and with more focus every day if you truely want to be succesful. I explain it to people like this.. Meditation is like exercise, Some people go for a walk to exercise and others lift weights, and still others work out every day for 6 hours a day (called body builders). Meditation is the same, if you want to get where Billy tells us we can get, you realy have to focus and be prepared to spend a few hours doing it or you will not be succesful. Use Focus and Effort like you would if you were trying to lift weights with your mind but always remember to not get angry and be patient. Focus on Love and Compassion within your heart as you increase your focus.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 07:59, 3 May 2012 (BST)<br />
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Why do US scientist keep sending billion dollar probes/rovers to dessert regions of mars and the moon for the public to see nothing!<br />
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--[[User:Raggy53|Raggy53]] 08:57, 13 August 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Peggy53, because they already know where the structures are and they have to avoid sending images of them or any other ramains of the Human Race that once lived on Mars or the evidence that we are going there and are using the Bases that were still in-tact.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge VA, USA, 01:40, 31 October 2012 (GMT)<br />
</div></div>Sweet6b9https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:FIGU_Bulletin_002&diff=19427Talk:FIGU Bulletin 0022012-10-31T01:38:23Z<p>Sweet6b9: Comment provided by Sweet6b9 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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winsome answers i like it<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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The Hoaxers use the truth to tell their lies but the truth shines through and points humans who are looking for the truth to the True Prophet...BEAM.That is how I found Eduard and The Goblet of the Truth.<br />
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 08:52, 9 May 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Extremely well presented, logically explained with reference sources, again hats off for Billy Meier!<br />
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Unfortunately we still have these delusional human parasites prostituting the Truth for their own ego and financial gain, misleading themselves and contributing to the degeneration and destruction of mankind. <br />
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Yet, they continue to consume their "blood money" derived from these Creational teachings brought about through sacrifices and numerous assassination attempts against Billy, who never receives a dime for his honorable services, which these materials would have not been made possible in the first place!<br />
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--Hawaiian 20:19, 9 May 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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It would seem to me that when Terrestrial Human begin to traverse the Universe as the Plejaren do and our bodies become used to moving from a physical state into a Light Body state that it would promote the body's ability to begin to move into a 5th dimensional existance as it gets more and more used to shifting into that state of being.<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Additionaly, Regarding the implant I have mentioned before, here are some links.. <br />
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN QUALIFIES, AS FACT THAT IMPLANTS ARE AMONG US NOW! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aNBssO4_do&feature=player_embedded <br />
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Listen to this man talk about billions of these implantable chips being created and then disappearing.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yytSNQ2ogD4 <br />
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See here how this technology is being displayed in its raw format without implant... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGNvP75UYGE <br />
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They have introduced a Bill in NY that litteraly gives Agencies the ability to implant us illegaly against our will with RFID chips and this Brain Scan technology. <br />
<br />
Her is the Website: http://www.us-government-torture.com/ <br />
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Be assured, if they do it to us they plan to rule the world and do it to everyone. I have also communicated with a man in Germany who said that the BND are also using this technology against Germans. I fear History is repeating its-self.<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:09, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Lastly, I have been trying to provide this link in relation to the BEAM mission and the associated materials also provided by Randolph Winters to Americans through YouTube. I also point out that both William Cooper and Phil Schneider both mention a Benevolent race that offered us help getting rid of the (Little Grey) but were turned away because they wanted the US to dissarm their Nuclear Missiles and that they offered to assist us with our Spiritual Awareness as we were not spiritualy advanced enough for their technology much less the technology we currently possessed at that time. These 2 people were assasinated for providing this info by the Secret Intelligence Agencies here that intend to keep Americans Blind to the truth of the BEAM Mission. I however continue to share the information even though they have discovered me and wish to prevent me from sharing it through threats and cooersion. <br />
I am also trying to contact various groups that represent a positive attitude toward Nature and living at Peace with other countries around the world to try to show them their commonalities and how they can support each other and become a more cohesive unit in their work to achieve all their seperate goals.<br />
Peace & Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:17, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==<br />
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I have question about the zeta retucullin greys, what lineage are tehy from? are they lyrian, or sirian or outsode of Nokodaimon linegae.<br />
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--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 07:46, 20 May 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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To The UFO Guy, I am unsure what lineage, but I do know that they were Human once. That they looked much like us if not exactly like us but their DNA was degenerated by cloning when they were enslaved by the Draconian Reptilians.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 07:42, 3 June 2011 (BST)<br />
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==<br />
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wtf Sweet6b9? that ow reptilain control grey thing is a lie. Short greys are bio bots controled by tall greys and are not under any reptian control!<br />
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--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 04:30, 9 June 2011 (BST)<br />
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==<br />
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wtf Sweet6b9? that ow reptilain control grey thing is a lie. Short greys are bio bots controled by tall greys and are not under any reptian control!<br />
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--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 04:30, 9 June 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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.............Sweet6b9 the greys are the extras from that movie ET the extraterrestrial. I swear my brothers and sisters on Earth get a little too excited sometimes. :) <br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 06:11, 9 June 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Again, I am not surprised to find Disinfo Agents on this site. I have over 15 years of experience working on Government Contracts and one thing I can say for sure is that the CIA worked hard and still work hard to hide the truth about the Billy Meier contacts. This is because they are working with the Dark ET or Lower Dimensional Beings. I want people to know the truth. The reason the Plejaren told Billy that they could not discuss what was happening in America is because the Corrupt Occult Organizations that control the government made them prommise not to tell. 9-11 was an inside job and it is connected to the NWO and it was used to start WWIII. These killers are working with the Draconian Reptilians and their slave race the Grey. Unless you want to become like the Grey, clones and Slaves, you need to wake up and listen to William Cooper and Phil Schneider, they were killed for telling the truth about this and the Billy Meier contacts. They protected Billy by not sharing this info with him. And rightly so. Billy is a Hero and a Profit of our time and people should realy listen closely to the contacts because they read like a good spy novel. Hidden messages. Listen to what is not said as much as what is said. Use the Meditation Exercise Billy gives with focus and real effort or it is pointless.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 07:40, 3 May 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Cat said ... ==<br />
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Sweet6b9 - the Plejarans have already said no reptilians exist in this dimension or any other. You've been watching too many Hollywood movies. <br />
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--[[User:Cat|Cat]] 09:39, 3 May 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Cat, I didn't say Reptilians.. I said Draconians, as in Draco or Dracula. They are Humanoid Parasites, they feed on other life forms but they can only feed on negative emotions like Fear of Chaos or Anger, Etc. They cannot feed on the light of the Candle flame or Sun as we can because they are Negative in Base. I do not wish to comment on Reptilians existing in this Dimension, but I believe that if they do that they are Benevolent for the most part, accept for the ones that were made into slaves to the Draconian Empire.<br />
Just remember to use Real focus with the meditation or you are wasting your time. Only extreme focus can produce real results. Anything less is pointless. I send my Blessings to Billy Meier, his information helped me to understand what is happening in the US Government and who I am up against here in the US. I live next to the Heart of Darkness, Washington DC. I know who you work for..<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge VA, USA, 01:30, 31 October 2012 (GMT)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Shoot, I did say Reptilians, my mistake, they are not reptilians, they are Parasites and Master Genetecists, they stole Reptilian DNA and some of them look like Reptilians, but they are Parasites, they feed on our organs, blood and negative emotions, they formed an Empire and they have some from many Races. As the Contact notes indicated, the Baffath teamed up with a very Dark Race that released them from their Prison Planet, that race being the Dark Shadows that work with the Draconians. They appear as Shadows or Oil Spills, but they are Dark Spiritual Energy. Just remember not to Fear them, if you understand that Love is the most powerful force in the Universe and Love your enemy you will have found the best weapon against the Draconians and Shadows, I don't mean fall in love, but have sympathy and care for them, they cannot stand this. Want to Hug them like you would a Baby that is crying, They are the same and your care and Love will either knock them out or make them run away. Also focus on the Light in your mind always, light of a candle flame or Sunlight.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), 01:38, 31 October 2012 (GMT)<br />
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winsome answers i like it<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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The Hoaxers use the truth to tell their lies but the truth shines through and points humans who are looking for the truth to the True Prophet...BEAM.That is how I found Eduard and The Goblet of the Truth.<br />
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 08:52, 9 May 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Extremely well presented, logically explained with reference sources, again hats off for Billy Meier!<br />
<br />
Unfortunately we still have these delusional human parasites prostituting the Truth for their own ego and financial gain, misleading themselves and contributing to the degeneration and destruction of mankind. <br />
<br />
Yet, they continue to consume their "blood money" derived from these Creational teachings brought about through sacrifices and numerous assassination attempts against Billy, who never receives a dime for his honorable services, which these materials would have not been made possible in the first place!<br />
<br />
<br />
--Hawaiian 20:19, 9 May 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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It would seem to me that when Terrestrial Human begin to traverse the Universe as the Plejaren do and our bodies become used to moving from a physical state into a Light Body state that it would promote the body's ability to begin to move into a 5th dimensional existance as it gets more and more used to shifting into that state of being.<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Additionaly, Regarding the implant I have mentioned before, here are some links.. <br />
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN QUALIFIES, AS FACT THAT IMPLANTS ARE AMONG US NOW! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aNBssO4_do&feature=player_embedded <br />
<br />
Listen to this man talk about billions of these implantable chips being created and then disappearing.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yytSNQ2ogD4 <br />
<br />
See here how this technology is being displayed in its raw format without implant... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGNvP75UYGE <br />
<br />
They have introduced a Bill in NY that litteraly gives Agencies the ability to implant us illegaly against our will with RFID chips and this Brain Scan technology. <br />
<br />
Her is the Website: http://www.us-government-torture.com/ <br />
<br />
Be assured, if they do it to us they plan to rule the world and do it to everyone. I have also communicated with a man in Germany who said that the BND are also using this technology against Germans. I fear History is repeating its-self.<br />
<br />
<br />
--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:09, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Lastly, I have been trying to provide this link in relation to the BEAM mission and the associated materials also provided by Randolph Winters to Americans through YouTube. I also point out that both William Cooper and Phil Schneider both mention a Benevolent race that offered us help getting rid of the (Little Grey) but were turned away because they wanted the US to dissarm their Nuclear Missiles and that they offered to assist us with our Spiritual Awareness as we were not spiritualy advanced enough for their technology much less the technology we currently possessed at that time. These 2 people were assasinated for providing this info by the Secret Intelligence Agencies here that intend to keep Americans Blind to the truth of the BEAM Mission. I however continue to share the information even though they have discovered me and wish to prevent me from sharing it through threats and cooersion. <br />
I am also trying to contact various groups that represent a positive attitude toward Nature and living at Peace with other countries around the world to try to show them their commonalities and how they can support each other and become a more cohesive unit in their work to achieve all their seperate goals.<br />
Peace & Wisdom<br />
<br />
--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:17, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==<br />
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I have question about the zeta retucullin greys, what lineage are tehy from? are they lyrian, or sirian or outsode of Nokodaimon linegae.<br />
<br />
--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 07:46, 20 May 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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To The UFO Guy, I am unsure what lineage, but I do know that they were Human once. That they looked much like us if not exactly like us but their DNA was degenerated by cloning when they were enslaved by the Draconian Reptilians.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
<br />
--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 07:42, 3 June 2011 (BST)<br />
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==<br />
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wtf Sweet6b9? that ow reptilain control grey thing is a lie. Short greys are bio bots controled by tall greys and are not under any reptian control!<br />
<br />
--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 04:30, 9 June 2011 (BST)<br />
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==<br />
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wtf Sweet6b9? that ow reptilain control grey thing is a lie. Short greys are bio bots controled by tall greys and are not under any reptian control!<br />
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--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 04:30, 9 June 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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.............Sweet6b9 the greys are the extras from that movie ET the extraterrestrial. I swear my brothers and sisters on Earth get a little too excited sometimes. :) <br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 06:11, 9 June 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Again, I am not surprised to find Disinfo Agents on this site. I have over 15 years of experience working on Government Contracts and one thing I can say for sure is that the CIA worked hard and still work hard to hide the truth about the Billy Meier contacts. This is because they are working with the Dark ET or Lower Dimensional Beings. I want people to know the truth. The reason the Plejaren told Billy that they could not discuss what was happening in America is because the Corrupt Occult Organizations that control the government made them prommise not to tell. 9-11 was an inside job and it is connected to the NWO and it was used to start WWIII. These killers are working with the Draconian Reptilians and their slave race the Grey. Unless you want to become like the Grey, clones and Slaves, you need to wake up and listen to William Cooper and Phil Schneider, they were killed for telling the truth about this and the Billy Meier contacts. They protected Billy by not sharing this info with him. And rightly so. Billy is a Hero and a Profit of our time and people should realy listen closely to the contacts because they read like a good spy novel. Hidden messages. Listen to what is not said as much as what is said. Use the Meditation Exercise Billy gives with focus and real effort or it is pointless.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 07:40, 3 May 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Cat said ... ==<br />
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Sweet6b9 - the Plejarans have already said no reptilians exist in this dimension or any other. You've been watching too many Hollywood movies. <br />
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--[[User:Cat|Cat]] 09:39, 3 May 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Cat, I didn't say Reptilians.. I said Draconians, as in Draco or Dracula. They are Humanoid Parasites, they feed on other life forms but they can only feed on negative emotions like Fear of Chaos or Anger, Etc. They cannot feed on the light of the Candle flame or Sun as we can because they are Negative in Base. I do not wish to comment on Reptilians existing in this Dimension, but I believe that if they do that they are Benevolent for the most part, accept for the ones that were made into slaves to the Draconian Empire.<br />
Just remember to use Real focus with the meditation or you are wasting your time. Only extreme focus can produce real results. Anything less is pointless. I send my Blessings to Billy Meier, his information helped me to understand what is happening in the US Government and who I am up against here in the US. I live next to the Heart of Darkness, Washington DC. I know who you work for..<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
<br />
--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] ([[User talk:Sweet6b9|talk]]), Woodbridge VA, USA, 01:30, 31 October 2012 (GMT)<br />
</div></div>Sweet6b9https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:How_can_I_help%3F&diff=18489Talk:How can I help?2012-05-03T08:10:59Z<p>Sweet6b9: Comment provided by Sweet6b9 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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I cannot translate the information but my family has a friend in Germany named Heinzbernd Padberg who has learned broken english and regularly contacts my parents and myself for holiday greetings and may be able to assist. Please contact me at sweet6b9@yahoo.com if you still require any assistance with this and I can contact him and see if he would be interested.<br />
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Sincerely,<br />
Kevin Gaylord<br />
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I am new age human.There is no temptation for me but food for my tempel.Everything informatiev i read of hear it feels like i told it because i understand wat needs to be understood but still i learn every moment more about the proceses of the universe.I have no one to share this knowlege with because is to complicated for the people around me.That´s why i contact you , if youre interest i would like to converse with you ?<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Low&Key - are you asking to talk to me or Billy?<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 09:10, 3 May 2012 (BST)<br />
</div></div>Sweet6b9https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:Attempts_on_Billy%27s_Life&diff=18488Talk:Attempts on Billy's Life2012-05-03T08:04:09Z<p>Sweet6b9: Comment provided by Sweet6b9 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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i think in some way your contactees protect you<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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He does have friends that can see a bit into the future and he might have that ability as well. I don't understand the murderous intent by some individuals sometimes, it's like playing chess. You know that the other guy is good but some refuse a challenge so you blow up the entire chess board with an atomic bomb. If you are confident in your ways then you don't have to cause harm to those that you don't agree with. I find those that cause harm are a bunch of sore losers. <br />
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The inner strength of BEAM through such ordeals speaks so much about his dedication and love for us earth bound creatures who aren't even half humans and can be worse than animals.<br />
Even animals have more decency than humans<br />
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The inner strength of BEAM through such ordeals speaks so much about his dedication and love for us earth bound creatures who aren't even half humans and can be worse than animals.<br />
Even animals have more decency than humans<br />
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--newinitiation 14:50, 25 May 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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In response to Newinitiation,<br />
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Yes, I would agree and also expand further to include those human parasites that exist at the expense of other humans, the Creator Overlords and others like the Giza Intelligences, their ancestors and other of similar nature. Their lust and greed for power goes beyond comprehension, into a realm of insanity and total destruction, the anti-creation process that tears apart everything, similar to a black hole. Maybe that's where they belong, dark energy?<br />
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In my assessment, they are worse than non-human parasites, virus or microbes at least these lowly creatures do not have the free will to determine right from wrong!<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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This attempt on Billy's life with the throwing knife rings a bell as to the skills taught in the American Army/Navy/Airforce. It is a known fact that throwing a knife is taught as a fighting skill for soldiers. I would not be surprised at all if this was an attempt from a Navy soldier. It should be known that the NAVY is very heavily involved with alien technology and weapons and that there are many underwater bases being used to conceal their efforts. This is all revealed by 2 people that lost their lives telling us the truth here in the USA. They were William Cooper and Phil Schneider. Their videos can also be found on YouTube. Peace & Wisdom Billy. May Creation Bless you.<br />
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That's how they do business around here at times, without truth they will be delusional and easily corrupted into such dastardly situations. It's easy to manipulate minds once you have control like the many different religions have as well as large powerful corporations that don't like there business being disturbed. It best to subtly develop humanity and change it from within slowly but surely as the direct approach is impossible with there level of maturity. :) <br />
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Yes, they teach the military to be arrogant and to ignore their better judgement in situations. They teach them that killing is OK.. Stupid, their spiritual growth will be much slower and longer indeed. The Idea that War and Killing are Ok is very Draconian Reptilian thinking. There are some Reptilians that are good and they are trying to help us, but the Royalty known as Draconians are working with the Idiots in the Secret Agencies and Royalty. I believe Princess Dianna discovered that the Royal Family in England are not Human and then they killed her. She confessed this to a close friend but it only made it into a tabloid. Killing is in direct violation to the Laws of Creation and only damages the Spiritual Evolution of those that think its OK because the Government said it was Ok.<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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All other opinions asside, I have seen the proof that these contacts are real as the US Government has extensive records related to the fact that these contacts are real. I do not have these records but I am attesting to this fact for all to see. They have and are having contact with the Baffath and are working with them as evidenced by the Black Triangle ships that are being seen world wide. For Video Evidence search Triangle UFO or TR-3B online or on YouTube.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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That metal is Aluminum and not Thulium. The EDS spectrum that Vogel shows corresponds to Aluminum with traces of Silver (see reference below). Thulium has a strong band at 1.462 KeV. This is very close to the Aluminum strong band at 1.486 KeV and without the "secondary bands" as Vogel himself noted. <br />
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I have experience with EDS X-Ray in Scanning Electron Microscopy; it is easy to confuse elements and, since there are no secondary bands, the metal is the very common element Aluminum and not the rare Thulium.<br />
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I'm surprise that in almost 30 years nobody noticed the mistake Vogel made in his analysis.<br />
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Reference: The "Thulium" Spectrum is shown at time mark 8:44 of the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4koTWaohZxc&feature=related . Again, that is Aluminum with traces of Silver and not Thulium.<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Well Gerswin2002, I guess that's your opinion. Vogel did note the secondary band (which was there) but somehow you claim it wasn't? Any nut job can come on here and make all sorts of claims. Come on, tell us your real name and qualifications. Sorry but having "experience" does not make you an expert. I think I'll go with the guy who had numerous patents based on information gleaned from investigation. How many patents do you have?<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Sweet6b9, those black triangle craft are none other than your very own terrestrial black ops. They have been around for at least 30 years - no aliens involved. A former military person informed me he had seen ufo craft in a hangar as far back as the '50s. They were sworn to secrecy. He also said that it was common that U.S. military personelle were brainwashed after coming out of the bush to make sure they kept their mouths shut.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Sweet: <br />
Aluminum and Thulium do have very close strong band (1.486 and 1.462 KeV respectively), you can verify that in the links below:<br />
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http://www.radiochemistry.org/periodictable/<br />
http://www.edax.com/literature/periodic.aspx<br />
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Vogel himself says the following (9:16 time mark of the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4koTWaohZxc&feature=related ):<br />
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"Now, the remarkable thing that we noticed was that, yes we got this band here [points to the 1.462KeV] this is the only one that matched in the spectral analysis in the computer, but the secondary bands that are connected with it [points to the bands at 7.17 KeV and 6.34 KeV] were not present" And his spectrum reflects exactly what he says.<br />
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You can check what an EDS spectrum for Thulium looks like in http://www.cannonmicroprobe.com/XRay_%20Spectra.htm scroll down to find it. It looks nothing to what he shows.<br />
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The metal he shows is clearly Aluminum and not Thulium. The EDS computers, even today, get the element id wrong many times. Human intervention is required all the time for proper EDS element identification.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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"You can check what an EDS spectrum for Thulium looks like in http://www.cannonmicroprobe.com/XRay_%20Spectra.htm scroll down to find it. It looks nothing to what he shows." <br />
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Except for one band at presumably at 1.462KeV which I say is 1.486KeV.<br />
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Only solid, clear, and unambiguous evidence matters and not the person's credentials. Vogel DOES NOT have such evidence for Thulium. <br />
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By the way, if you have more EDS spectra presented by Vogel, I'd love to review them. Please post the links to them.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Sheila,<br />
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As a matter of fact, please direct me to any posted EDS X-Ray Spectrum data collected by Vogel either in print or in video. I'm extremely interested in checking his data. I have been looking on the internet for the spectra he captured and I cannot find it.<br />
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I'm more interested in his data than in his opinions.<br />
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Thanks,<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Well Gerswin, the specimen contained "very pure silver and very pure aluminum, potassium, calcium, copper, argon, bromine, chlorine, iron, sulfer and silicon" and "an astonishing mixture of almost all of the elements in the periodic table". So based on that information I'm sure you'll find them all. I don't have a link. So what is your purpose in all of this? And how much experience do you have with cold fusion?<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Aloha Sheila,<br />
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I was going to spend some time doing research on Thulium, but decided you probably have a better answer to Gerswin2002 inquires which has just been demonstrated in the vast complexity of discrete elements that represents almost the entire periodic table including evidence micro-machining and indentations.<br />
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Even though if Gerswin2002 can prove that Thulium was actually Aluminum, does that ONE discrepancy invalidate the other elements that obviously are discrete in their unique characteristics bonded together Not but any heating processing (which would have destroyed their discreteness), BUT bonded by cold fusion, which is still NOT POSSIBLE by Earthly scientists!<br />
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Instead of waiting 30 plus years trying to discredit Vogel’s findings on this ONE element called Thulium, why hasn’t Gerswin2002 look into the other materials as well? Sometimes people are so obsessed on one belief or disbelief they forget to notice other things in life that keeps on evolving while they remain stagnated on this one issue in the vain hope of achieving the perfect solution. Nothing is perfect, otherwise there is no reason for creation to evolve further and that also applies to beliefs or dis beliefs.<br />
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So if Gerswin2002 wants to continue on his endeavors to prove Vogel’s findings on Thulium wrong and ignore the other more important materials that Billy and the Plejarens have brought forth, that is his prerogative and we wish him well in his efforts. I wouldn’t waste my time on something that is definitely not my problem since I’ve got better and more interesting things to do.<br />
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One thing that intrigues me about this metal specimen is what reason or reasons why it represents the entire periodic table of elements and being the hull of their spaceships which is metal, yet at the same time crystal, it must have much deeper meaning and/or purpose other than just being the outside material for their spaceships?<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Hawaiian and Sheila,<br />
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As a matter of fact, I also analysed the other EDS X-Ray spectrum where he claims that the sample contains many elements. This spectrum is found in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4koTWaohZxc&feature=related at the time mark of 7:12. <br />
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Here he Vogel identifies the elements Silicon (1.740KeV), Sulfur (2.307KeV) , Iron (0.706 KeV, 6.403 KeV) and then he goes on to say that the there are many other very small elements bands and that he did not attempt to identify them. Si, S, and Fe may very well be there, but the rest of the spectrum are not element bands, but what in EDS Spectroscopy is known as Continuum Bremsstrahlung Emission. This radiation, though part of the EDS X-Ray Emission, does not contain useful information about the elements in the sample. See the references below for more info:<br />
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bremsstrahlung<br />
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/xrayc.html <br />
http://www.scribd.com/doc/31759852/7-EDS-WDS-X-Ray-Elemental-Micro-Analysis-Electron-Microscopy-and-Diffraction<br />
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So, in the mentioned EDS Spectrum, Vogel really only identifies three elements and he incorrectly interprets the continuum Bremsstrahlung emission with a whole bunch of element bands together.<br />
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This is the only EDS Spectrum produced by Vogel that I'm aware of where he tries to prove that there are many elements in the sample. If you have more evidence in the form of EDS Spectra (where he shows all the elements Sheila mentioned), I would love to see it. <br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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I agree with your comments Hawaiian and had much the same feelings as you. Gerswin is not the first and will not be the last. He refuses to state his full name and position and whether he has any patents or whether he has any experience in cold fusion (LOL, I was looking forward to his reply on that but again he never answered that question). <br />
Gerswin, why don't you try this. Get a hold of the American government and find out if you can test the metal of the craft which crashed at Roswell. Then you could test it out first hand. Let us know your results.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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OK, I hereby retract all my arguments on the grounds that I do not have as many patents as Marcel Vogel nor do I have his credentials. I did not find a remove option in my account, how can I delete them?<br />
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Now, I assume we all agree that it is OK for anyone to look at the evidence. I really need more references either in print or video where Vogel's data is presented. I already have the videos Contact and The Beamship. Are there more videos of Marcel Vogel showing his EDS X-Ray spectra?<br />
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How about Vogel's notebook, the one he shows in the video? does anyobody know where this notebook is? are there digital scans of it somewhere? The Metal Alloy section of this webpage seems to concentrate more on listing Vogel's patents than on the actual evidence he presented on the subject. By the way, none of the links to his IBM patents work.<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Again Gerswin - for what purpose? Are you just another debunker looking for his 15 minutes of fame? Well good luck with that.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Sheila. Thanks anyway, I think I got all the information that I need. I'm writing an article for The Skeptical Inquirer. When it is published, you can finally see my credentials.<br />
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For now, feel free to check my complete analysis on our website:<br />
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http://www.iigwest.com/investigations/meier/metal_analysis_deconstruction.html<br />
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By the way, if you Google "Billy Meier Metal Samples" or "Marcel Vogel Metal Samples", our website shows first.<br />
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Cheers...<br />
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--[[User:Gerswin2002|Gerswin2002]] 04:45, 14 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Well that settles it then, you really are a nobody. Oh well, hope you enjoyed your 15 minutes and have a nice life.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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whatever you say Sheila. But I'm first on google search. <br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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...and you are a nobody too.<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Gerswin, I never claimed to be "someone" like you did. And quite frankly no one really cares about your damn ego. Funny on that stupid post of yours you claim that there are metal samples on earth that have all the elements, but you fail to provide any proof of their existence. LOL<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Here's a little background on what's going on here:<br />
http://theyflyblog.com/breaking-iig-skeptics-retract-claims-against-meier-case%E2%80%A6again/12/10/2011<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 16:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Thanks for letting me know about this communication from Jack Sarlo. I will get that straighten out immediately.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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I totally forgot to email Jack Sarlo back letting him know about the update.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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"you claim that there are metal samples on earth that have all the elements"<br />
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That's not what I said, this is exactly what I say: "It is quite common to find samples in the natural world that contain a wide variety of elements in them." and I present proof of it with an EDS Scan I took myself of a plain uninteresting rock. I detected Si, Al, Fe, O, Mg, Ca, and C. If I bleach the rock, I add Cl to it; if I rub toothpaste on it, I add Flourine and Nitrogen. All those will show in the EDS Scan and I can make the sample look as though all those elements are "bonded together while preserving their own identity".<br />
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In the BEAMSHIP, Vogel shows evidence of Fe, S, Si, Ag, and Al. There is no Tm, as he claims. He incorrectly misinterpreted the Bremsstrahlung emission and I show exactly why. So far, my earthly rock has more elements than Vogel's samples. <br />
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If there is an EDS X-Ray scan taken by him where he shows all the elements of the periodic table, it is NOT in The Beamship or in Contact. I will keep looking.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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From your own turf:<br />
http://theyflyblog.com/breaking-iig-skeptics-retract-claims-against-meier-case%E2%80%A6again/12/10/2011/untitled-1-copy-2<br />
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This is one of your own documents people. There is it: "Thulium, remarkably, showed only the primary band spike for that element--[in bold] no secondary bands existed".<br />
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That element was Aluminum, which has no secondary bands, and NOT Thulium. Thank you Michael Horn, I was worried that I wasn't listening right to the audio in the video.<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Well that's a sure sign of schizophrenia, arguing with yourself. I think you should get yourself checked out Gerswin. You have again failed to prove the existence any metal sample which contain ALL the elements. Sorry but your rock only has 7 elements or perhaps 9, if you fudge it (which you seem to be real good at). But nice try though.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Well, I'm done with the analysis and reproduced Vogel's results in full with earthly samples. Now, to write my article for the Skeptical Inquirer. <br />
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It was never my intention to convince anyone here to how much you all were fooled by Meier and Vogel. Quite the contrary, the more people believe them today, the more likely my article is to be published on SI.<br />
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So, please, don't stop believing. <br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Gerswin2002,<br />
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In your own quote “Well, I'm done with the analysis and reproduced Vogel's results in full with earthly samples.”<br />
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So are you excluding the fact that Vogel has video evidence of rectangular micro machining with 90-degree angles (which never occurs in nature) surrounded by semi-circle indentations to indicate that some man-made apparatus was induced on this metal specimen?<br />
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It is obvious that you are not a scientist nor subject your “discipline” to rigid standards by discarding evidence to “suit” your own personal agenda. If Skeptical Inquirer does print your article, then it only shows how unreliable their reputations are.<br />
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At least we can say that Charles Darwin was a bonafide scientists, although he did “massage” his theory of evolution of man coming from the apes by filing down some bone fragments to make it appear there was a corresponding link between them, at least he did not throw away or exclude any other evidence as in your case. <br />
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And lastly, I’m sure you are doing this for nothing, so how much and who is paying your salary or what compensation will Skeptical Inquirer or they cohorts give you in return for your “scientific investigation”?<br />
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Vogel got and asked for nothing in doing this investigation strictly out of scientific curiosity, I’m sure he knew of the consequences of making his findings public but went ahead as any scientist would in making discoveries.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Hi Hawaiian,<br />
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" Vogel has video evidence of rectangular micro machining with 90-degree angles" <br />
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Here is the SEM micrograph shown by Vogel in The Beamship:<br />
http://www.iigwest.com/investigations/meier/Metal-Samples-Deconstruction-version2_files/image042.jpg<br />
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This is at 7:59 of the video <br />
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4koTWaohZxc&feature=related<br />
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Is this the one you are talking about? this is the only picture taken with the scanning electron microscope that he shows (all others were taken with an optical microscope), or is it? I hope you are familiar with The Beamship. <br />
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If this is not the SEM pic you talk about, please point to me on this or any other video that shows the SEM picture where what you say is shown.<br />
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BTW, I would be lucky if any of the SI editors even looks at my article.<br />
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Hawaiian,<br />
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If there is more evidence that I'm not including, absolutely let me know. I'd definitively love to see more SEM pictures and EDS X-Ray spectra from this sample taken by Vogel or anyone else.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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You can now see my credentials.<br />
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http://www.openminds.tv/deconstruction-of-billy-meier%E2%80%99s-metal-samples-865/<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Hey Gerswin, I think you're confusing us with people who actually give a crap about who you are or who you think you are. I am so unimpressed I didn't even check your link.<br />
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Hello Mr. Alvarado, aka Gerswin,<br />
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I checked your link to the article you posted on OpenMinds. Your argument is decent, when viewed topically and pseudo-critically. That being said, it also mimics the style of Meier's 'photo deconstruction' by fellow IIG member Derek Bartholomaus. When something looks similar to something else, that doesn't automatically mean that one has license to say that they are the same thing.<br />
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Also, even if the viewpoint about those metal samples is correct, which you have attempted to demonstrate many times here, that is only one aspect of the evidence in the case, and doesn't have any momentum when faced with the reality that there is so much more verifiable evidence, ALL things considered.<br />
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...It's like getting a big, bad, brand new Ford F-650 SuperTruck and driving it out onto some train tracks to prove that you can stop a slow-moving train with your impressive truck. It's just not going to happen, especially when you can't see/don't want to acknowledge the rest of the train, which curves around a bend and procedes to go back 10 miles further, and all of the train cars are full of either lead or coal. The truck is impressive, sure, but it's not going to stop the train, even if it's only going 2 mph. It might take 800 years to get to the train station, but it will get there, F-650 SuperTruck or not.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Hi RemR,<br />
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Thanks for reading my article. Unfortunately, the pictures that I used are direct screen shots from Beamship:The Metal. Do you know where I can get better quality pictures of Vogel's spectra and SEMs pictures? I have been looking all over the web for them and they are not in Wendelle Steven's Preliminary Report.<br />
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Thanks again for reading the article.<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Sheila - I am aware that the TR-3B Astra Locust is a Military device but those are not the only Black Triangle ships as mentioned in the Contact Notes. The Baffath also use this configuration. This is not a coincidence. I was not Military, I was not brainwashed. But Yes, you are correct, The TR-3B is terestrial but it also uses Quasicrystals and that technology was given to them. They can change the color to match the color of the sky with these Quasicrystals to try to hide.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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Sheila - I am not trying to argue with you. I fully support the truth of the Billy Meier contacts. Unlike others, I have seen actual proof of them and know that they were real. Also I have had success with the Meditation Exercise that was a Spiritualy Enlightening and Life Changing process and I am now in direct opposition to the Occult forces that are in control of the Financial Industries and Secret Intelligence Agencies of the world. They realy don't like me because I am slowly waking people up here in the US. I just wanted you to know that we are on the same side. I do not mean to sound argumentative in my comments. Please forgive this if It comes across that way in text.<br />
Saalome - Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 08:56, 3 May 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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All other opinions asside, I have seen the proof that these contacts are real as the US Government has extensive records related to the fact that these contacts are real. I do not have these records but I am attesting to this fact for all to see. They have and are having contact with the Baffath and are working with them as evidenced by the Black Triangle ships that are being seen world wide. For Video Evidence search Triangle UFO or TR-3B online or on YouTube.<br />
Peace & Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 23:52, 16 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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That metal is Aluminum and not Thulium. The EDS spectrum that Vogel shows corresponds to Aluminum with traces of Silver (see reference below). Thulium has a strong band at 1.462 KeV. This is very close to the Aluminum strong band at 1.486 KeV and without the "secondary bands" as Vogel himself noted. <br />
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I have experience with EDS X-Ray in Scanning Electron Microscopy; it is easy to confuse elements and, since there are no secondary bands, the metal is the very common element Aluminum and not the rare Thulium.<br />
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I'm surprise that in almost 30 years nobody noticed the mistake Vogel made in his analysis.<br />
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Reference: The "Thulium" Spectrum is shown at time mark 8:44 of the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4koTWaohZxc&feature=related . Again, that is Aluminum with traces of Silver and not Thulium.<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Well Gerswin2002, I guess that's your opinion. Vogel did note the secondary band (which was there) but somehow you claim it wasn't? Any nut job can come on here and make all sorts of claims. Come on, tell us your real name and qualifications. Sorry but having "experience" does not make you an expert. I think I'll go with the guy who had numerous patents based on information gleaned from investigation. How many patents do you have?<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Sweet6b9, those black triangle craft are none other than your very own terrestrial black ops. They have been around for at least 30 years - no aliens involved. A former military person informed me he had seen ufo craft in a hangar as far back as the '50s. They were sworn to secrecy. He also said that it was common that U.S. military personelle were brainwashed after coming out of the bush to make sure they kept their mouths shut.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Sweet: <br />
Aluminum and Thulium do have very close strong band (1.486 and 1.462 KeV respectively), you can verify that in the links below:<br />
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http://www.radiochemistry.org/periodictable/<br />
http://www.edax.com/literature/periodic.aspx<br />
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Vogel himself says the following (9:16 time mark of the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4koTWaohZxc&feature=related ):<br />
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"Now, the remarkable thing that we noticed was that, yes we got this band here [points to the 1.462KeV] this is the only one that matched in the spectral analysis in the computer, but the secondary bands that are connected with it [points to the bands at 7.17 KeV and 6.34 KeV] were not present" And his spectrum reflects exactly what he says.<br />
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You can check what an EDS spectrum for Thulium looks like in http://www.cannonmicroprobe.com/XRay_%20Spectra.htm scroll down to find it. It looks nothing to what he shows.<br />
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The metal he shows is clearly Aluminum and not Thulium. The EDS computers, even today, get the element id wrong many times. Human intervention is required all the time for proper EDS element identification.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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"You can check what an EDS spectrum for Thulium looks like in http://www.cannonmicroprobe.com/XRay_%20Spectra.htm scroll down to find it. It looks nothing to what he shows." <br />
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Except for one band at presumably at 1.462KeV which I say is 1.486KeV.<br />
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Only solid, clear, and unambiguous evidence matters and not the person's credentials. Vogel DOES NOT have such evidence for Thulium. <br />
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By the way, if you have more EDS spectra presented by Vogel, I'd love to review them. Please post the links to them.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Sheila,<br />
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As a matter of fact, please direct me to any posted EDS X-Ray Spectrum data collected by Vogel either in print or in video. I'm extremely interested in checking his data. I have been looking on the internet for the spectra he captured and I cannot find it.<br />
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I'm more interested in his data than in his opinions.<br />
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Thanks,<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Well Gerswin, the specimen contained "very pure silver and very pure aluminum, potassium, calcium, copper, argon, bromine, chlorine, iron, sulfer and silicon" and "an astonishing mixture of almost all of the elements in the periodic table". So based on that information I'm sure you'll find them all. I don't have a link. So what is your purpose in all of this? And how much experience do you have with cold fusion?<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Aloha Sheila,<br />
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I was going to spend some time doing research on Thulium, but decided you probably have a better answer to Gerswin2002 inquires which has just been demonstrated in the vast complexity of discrete elements that represents almost the entire periodic table including evidence micro-machining and indentations.<br />
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Even though if Gerswin2002 can prove that Thulium was actually Aluminum, does that ONE discrepancy invalidate the other elements that obviously are discrete in their unique characteristics bonded together Not but any heating processing (which would have destroyed their discreteness), BUT bonded by cold fusion, which is still NOT POSSIBLE by Earthly scientists!<br />
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Instead of waiting 30 plus years trying to discredit Vogel’s findings on this ONE element called Thulium, why hasn’t Gerswin2002 look into the other materials as well? Sometimes people are so obsessed on one belief or disbelief they forget to notice other things in life that keeps on evolving while they remain stagnated on this one issue in the vain hope of achieving the perfect solution. Nothing is perfect, otherwise there is no reason for creation to evolve further and that also applies to beliefs or dis beliefs.<br />
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So if Gerswin2002 wants to continue on his endeavors to prove Vogel’s findings on Thulium wrong and ignore the other more important materials that Billy and the Plejarens have brought forth, that is his prerogative and we wish him well in his efforts. I wouldn’t waste my time on something that is definitely not my problem since I’ve got better and more interesting things to do.<br />
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One thing that intrigues me about this metal specimen is what reason or reasons why it represents the entire periodic table of elements and being the hull of their spaceships which is metal, yet at the same time crystal, it must have much deeper meaning and/or purpose other than just being the outside material for their spaceships?<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 06:58, 13 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Hawaiian and Sheila,<br />
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As a matter of fact, I also analysed the other EDS X-Ray spectrum where he claims that the sample contains many elements. This spectrum is found in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4koTWaohZxc&feature=related at the time mark of 7:12. <br />
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Here he Vogel identifies the elements Silicon (1.740KeV), Sulfur (2.307KeV) , Iron (0.706 KeV, 6.403 KeV) and then he goes on to say that the there are many other very small elements bands and that he did not attempt to identify them. Si, S, and Fe may very well be there, but the rest of the spectrum are not element bands, but what in EDS Spectroscopy is known as Continuum Bremsstrahlung Emission. This radiation, though part of the EDS X-Ray Emission, does not contain useful information about the elements in the sample. See the references below for more info:<br />
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bremsstrahlung<br />
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/xrayc.html <br />
http://www.scribd.com/doc/31759852/7-EDS-WDS-X-Ray-Elemental-Micro-Analysis-Electron-Microscopy-and-Diffraction<br />
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So, in the mentioned EDS Spectrum, Vogel really only identifies three elements and he incorrectly interprets the continuum Bremsstrahlung emission with a whole bunch of element bands together.<br />
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This is the only EDS Spectrum produced by Vogel that I'm aware of where he tries to prove that there are many elements in the sample. If you have more evidence in the form of EDS Spectra (where he shows all the elements Sheila mentioned), I would love to see it. <br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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I agree with your comments Hawaiian and had much the same feelings as you. Gerswin is not the first and will not be the last. He refuses to state his full name and position and whether he has any patents or whether he has any experience in cold fusion (LOL, I was looking forward to his reply on that but again he never answered that question). <br />
Gerswin, why don't you try this. Get a hold of the American government and find out if you can test the metal of the craft which crashed at Roswell. Then you could test it out first hand. Let us know your results.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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OK, I hereby retract all my arguments on the grounds that I do not have as many patents as Marcel Vogel nor do I have his credentials. I did not find a remove option in my account, how can I delete them?<br />
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Now, I assume we all agree that it is OK for anyone to look at the evidence. I really need more references either in print or video where Vogel's data is presented. I already have the videos Contact and The Beamship. Are there more videos of Marcel Vogel showing his EDS X-Ray spectra?<br />
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How about Vogel's notebook, the one he shows in the video? does anyobody know where this notebook is? are there digital scans of it somewhere? The Metal Alloy section of this webpage seems to concentrate more on listing Vogel's patents than on the actual evidence he presented on the subject. By the way, none of the links to his IBM patents work.<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Again Gerswin - for what purpose? Are you just another debunker looking for his 15 minutes of fame? Well good luck with that.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Sheila. Thanks anyway, I think I got all the information that I need. I'm writing an article for The Skeptical Inquirer. When it is published, you can finally see my credentials.<br />
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For now, feel free to check my complete analysis on our website:<br />
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http://www.iigwest.com/investigations/meier/metal_analysis_deconstruction.html<br />
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By the way, if you Google "Billy Meier Metal Samples" or "Marcel Vogel Metal Samples", our website shows first.<br />
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Cheers...<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Well that settles it then, you really are a nobody. Oh well, hope you enjoyed your 15 minutes and have a nice life.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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whatever you say Sheila. But I'm first on google search. <br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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...and you are a nobody too.<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Gerswin, I never claimed to be "someone" like you did. And quite frankly no one really cares about your damn ego. Funny on that stupid post of yours you claim that there are metal samples on earth that have all the elements, but you fail to provide any proof of their existence. LOL<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Here's a little background on what's going on here:<br />
http://theyflyblog.com/breaking-iig-skeptics-retract-claims-against-meier-case%E2%80%A6again/12/10/2011<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 16:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Thanks for letting me know about this communication from Jack Sarlo. I will get that straighten out immediately.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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I totally forgot to email Jack Sarlo back letting him know about the update.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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"you claim that there are metal samples on earth that have all the elements"<br />
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That's not what I said, this is exactly what I say: "It is quite common to find samples in the natural world that contain a wide variety of elements in them." and I present proof of it with an EDS Scan I took myself of a plain uninteresting rock. I detected Si, Al, Fe, O, Mg, Ca, and C. If I bleach the rock, I add Cl to it; if I rub toothpaste on it, I add Flourine and Nitrogen. All those will show in the EDS Scan and I can make the sample look as though all those elements are "bonded together while preserving their own identity".<br />
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In the BEAMSHIP, Vogel shows evidence of Fe, S, Si, Ag, and Al. There is no Tm, as he claims. He incorrectly misinterpreted the Bremsstrahlung emission and I show exactly why. So far, my earthly rock has more elements than Vogel's samples. <br />
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If there is an EDS X-Ray scan taken by him where he shows all the elements of the periodic table, it is NOT in The Beamship or in Contact. I will keep looking.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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From your own turf:<br />
http://theyflyblog.com/breaking-iig-skeptics-retract-claims-against-meier-case%E2%80%A6again/12/10/2011/untitled-1-copy-2<br />
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This is one of your own documents people. There is it: "Thulium, remarkably, showed only the primary band spike for that element--[in bold] no secondary bands existed".<br />
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That element was Aluminum, which has no secondary bands, and NOT Thulium. Thank you Michael Horn, I was worried that I wasn't listening right to the audio in the video.<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Well that's a sure sign of schizophrenia, arguing with yourself. I think you should get yourself checked out Gerswin. You have again failed to prove the existence any metal sample which contain ALL the elements. Sorry but your rock only has 7 elements or perhaps 9, if you fudge it (which you seem to be real good at). But nice try though.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Well, I'm done with the analysis and reproduced Vogel's results in full with earthly samples. Now, to write my article for the Skeptical Inquirer. <br />
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It was never my intention to convince anyone here to how much you all were fooled by Meier and Vogel. Quite the contrary, the more people believe them today, the more likely my article is to be published on SI.<br />
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So, please, don't stop believing. <br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Gerswin2002,<br />
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In your own quote “Well, I'm done with the analysis and reproduced Vogel's results in full with earthly samples.”<br />
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So are you excluding the fact that Vogel has video evidence of rectangular micro machining with 90-degree angles (which never occurs in nature) surrounded by semi-circle indentations to indicate that some man-made apparatus was induced on this metal specimen?<br />
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It is obvious that you are not a scientist nor subject your “discipline” to rigid standards by discarding evidence to “suit” your own personal agenda. If Skeptical Inquirer does print your article, then it only shows how unreliable their reputations are.<br />
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At least we can say that Charles Darwin was a bonafide scientists, although he did “massage” his theory of evolution of man coming from the apes by filing down some bone fragments to make it appear there was a corresponding link between them, at least he did not throw away or exclude any other evidence as in your case. <br />
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And lastly, I’m sure you are doing this for nothing, so how much and who is paying your salary or what compensation will Skeptical Inquirer or they cohorts give you in return for your “scientific investigation”?<br />
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Vogel got and asked for nothing in doing this investigation strictly out of scientific curiosity, I’m sure he knew of the consequences of making his findings public but went ahead as any scientist would in making discoveries.<br />
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Hi Hawaiian,<br />
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" Vogel has video evidence of rectangular micro machining with 90-degree angles" <br />
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Here is the SEM micrograph shown by Vogel in The Beamship:<br />
http://www.iigwest.com/investigations/meier/Metal-Samples-Deconstruction-version2_files/image042.jpg<br />
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This is at 7:59 of the video <br />
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4koTWaohZxc&feature=related<br />
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Is this the one you are talking about? this is the only picture taken with the scanning electron microscope that he shows (all others were taken with an optical microscope), or is it? I hope you are familiar with The Beamship. <br />
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If this is not the SEM pic you talk about, please point to me on this or any other video that shows the SEM picture where what you say is shown.<br />
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BTW, I would be lucky if any of the SI editors even looks at my article.<br />
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Hawaiian,<br />
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If there is more evidence that I'm not including, absolutely let me know. I'd definitively love to see more SEM pictures and EDS X-Ray spectra from this sample taken by Vogel or anyone else.<br />
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Ivan A<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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You can now see my credentials.<br />
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http://www.openminds.tv/deconstruction-of-billy-meier%E2%80%99s-metal-samples-865/<br />
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--[[User:Gerswin2002|Gerswin2002]] 22:12, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Hey Gerswin, I think you're confusing us with people who actually give a crap about who you are or who you think you are. I am so unimpressed I didn't even check your link.<br />
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Hello Mr. Alvarado, aka Gerswin,<br />
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I checked your link to the article you posted on OpenMinds. Your argument is decent, when viewed topically and pseudo-critically. That being said, it also mimics the style of Meier's 'photo deconstruction' by fellow IIG member Derek Bartholomaus. When something looks similar to something else, that doesn't automatically mean that one has license to say that they are the same thing.<br />
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Also, even if the viewpoint about those metal samples is correct, which you have attempted to demonstrate many times here, that is only one aspect of the evidence in the case, and doesn't have any momentum when faced with the reality that there is so much more verifiable evidence, ALL things considered.<br />
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...It's like getting a big, bad, brand new Ford F-650 SuperTruck and driving it out onto some train tracks to prove that you can stop a slow-moving train with your impressive truck. It's just not going to happen, especially when you can't see/don't want to acknowledge the rest of the train, which curves around a bend and procedes to go back 10 miles further, and all of the train cars are full of either lead or coal. The truck is impressive, sure, but it's not going to stop the train, even if it's only going 2 mph. It might take 800 years to get to the train station, but it will get there, F-650 SuperTruck or not.<br />
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== Gerswin2002 said ... ==<br />
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Hi RemR,<br />
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Thanks for reading my article. Unfortunately, the pictures that I used are direct screen shots from Beamship:The Metal. Do you know where I can get better quality pictures of Vogel's spectra and SEMs pictures? I have been looking all over the web for them and they are not in Wendelle Steven's Preliminary Report.<br />
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Thanks again for reading the article.<br />
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Sheila - I am aware that the TR-3B Astra Locust is a Military device but those are not the only Black Triangle ships as mentioned in the Contact Notes. The Baffath also use this configuration. This is not a coincidence. I was not Military, I was not brainwashed. But Yes, you are correct, The TR-3B is terestrial but it also uses Quasicrystals and that technology was given to them. They can change the color to match the color of the sky with these Quasicrystals to try to hide.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 08:41, 3 May 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Can anyone verify the Covenant? As It was mentioned by the Reptilian Race regarding activity on Earth.<br />
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Also does anyone have information about Aldeberon, is this a prison planet or a dead planet that the Dark Ones use as a prison planet for Light Beings?<br />
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Peace & Wisdom<br />
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I would really like to read an English Translation on Contact report 71 and 72. Thank you!<br />
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My fellow humans of Earth Halo is a vidoe game not real life. People are so uneducated in these times Sweet6b9 now can't differentiate reality from electronic creativity. Weird. There is a prison planet I read about for the worst ingeniously gifted and uncontrollable deviants that lost there way. :)<br />
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Markvd - If you have nothing positive to say or to answer the questions I ask then please refrain. I found my answers.<br />
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i wondered why he would take a photo of tv screen when he had so much other undeniable evidence, this seems like an unlikely but rational explanation as it would be seem very out of character 2 forge the photo, ive read alot of know it all debunkers on youtube and beyond with there silly ''rational'' explanation, the miniture trees etc! i get angry at people like that but i guess they are on there on path. i just dont know why they go to the bother if they rnt interested!<br />
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People go to such lengths to cover up and or try to falsify the truth in order to keep profit streams alive. A disgusting practice but a reality nonetheless<br />
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== TCFelon said ... ==<br />
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Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics. and other unique proofs and have them circulate safely around the world as, Billy, his associates, on ground and above and I would like.. I guess I inadvertently lied to a few of my friends about some of the photos. I hope one day soon we ,(all of us around the world) can get together without any uncomfortable thoughts/feelings of deceit or any prejudged feelings of hate, jealously and anger towards next man 'and or entity.' Peace/Wisdom/Love/Truth. To the Plejaren Fed. and their wonderful associates. <br />
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William C.<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I agree TCFelon but if they had to capture everybody who falsifies Billy's work and those that lack sincerity and genuineness it would probably take all eternity. They will probably only stop the most heinous pretenders. :) The photos are rather interesting because they say that Asket and Nera are from another universe thus they don't mind there photos being here. Due to the creativity and level of lowness some beings can reach they altered it so they are dancers on a talk show. That calls for a Billy uppercut to the nose. j/k<br />
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--Mark 22:28, 29 March 2010 (BST)<br />
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== tom said ... ==<br />
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Próby zamachów na Zycie Billego świadczą o niczym innym tylko o tym, że mówi on prawdę. To samo tyczy sie zafalszowywania jego zdjęć. <br />
Ci którzy znają temat szaraków i replitalian wiedzą kto to są "ludzie" w czerni... im najmniej zależy na poznaniu przez ludzi prawdy, prawdy, która przecież wyzwala, wyzwala z więzów zniewolenia..<br />
Meier od samego początku, jak zapoznałem się z jego osobą, wyzwala we mnie zaufanie... Jest zupełnie niepodobnym do tych co gonią za władzą i towarzyszącą jej ułudą pieniądza. Zna wiele praw duchowych i sam żyje wedle nich, więc mało prawdopodobne jest to, że próbowałby robić jakiekolwiek fałszerstwa, a tym bardziej, jak niektóre źródła jemu zarzucają, w celu zdobycia sławy lub majątku.<br />
Bardziej mają powody ku temu ci, którzy obawiają się zaistnienia tych praw w ludzkich sercach i umysłach, bo to rujnuje ich starania o zniewolenie gatunku ludzkiego.<br />
Więcej niczego chyba nie trzeba tu dodawać. Przynajmniej ode mnie to wszystko.<br />
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--tom 15:15, 11 April 2010 (BST)<br />
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tom ist from Poland ;) <br />
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--tom 15:18, 11 April 2010 (BST)<br />
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BEAM is awesome, thank you ! controlledfollymaker@gmail.com<br />
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--human being 00:08, 10 June 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Matt C. said ... ==<br />
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This guy is a Fraud. His website is down, and he's far from credible. This is the person who would says that the aliens sent the blueprints for their (trashcan lid looking) UFO's to the wrong people who ended up making them into trash can lids... seriously?<br />
David doesn't know the difference between There and Their, so his opinion is out. <br />
Is it harder to cover up the "truth" or to fall into the cross hairs of a conman?<br />
I'm going with Occam's Razor on this one. This solution is the simplest, obvious, one; this man is a fraud. <br />
This post will probably be deleted. Just saying...<br />
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== Neckel said ... ==<br />
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no your comment won't get deleted.......... haha it is always interesting to see people who come with information from second or even third hand and make judgments about others without having a clue of the person itself...... this is present in almost everyones life and i bet some judge you also in the same way. I bet you come after me when i do a "spelling" error like David did...... if one has nothing else to offer then one goes after the small and unimportant things, right ;)). If you find sth. with a higher ethic and a higher sense of moral then we can talk again. (Do not come with religions, most of them preach love and make war.) I wish you good luck in your search for the truth.<br />
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== DRN said ... ==<br />
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Couple things I don't understand. These are not in any certain order. <br />
1. You sell these photos. So Wouldn't any copy predating 1984 be of the original photo? And if so, how similar to the forgery are they?<br />
2. How did you find out Mr. S was working for the MIB and when? <br />
3. If Mr. S disappeared one day without a trace, how did his organization learn of his death?<br />
4. If Billy was told in 1984 these were forgeries, but yet forgot due to amnesia sustained in 1982, how was he able to recollect the origin of his nickname and the first and last name of the woman who gave it to her during an interview in 1982? Was it selected amnesia or partial?<br />
5. If you have a photo of Mr. S and factual evidence he worked for MIB, why not release that info? seems it would clear some up some of the misconceptions.<br />
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In question 3 when i say "his organization" I mean billy's. <br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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DRN <br />
If I understood correctly MIB is not Will Smith or Tommy Lee Jones OR from our planet. They are from the Sirian region from an alternate time space bred to cause headaches on Earth. If this info is false however there is only one solution to ponder. Is Billy really Billy or is hea fake Billy? In that case arrest Billy, Asket, Nera, we have there photos and Quetzal, Ptaah, Semjase and send them to the prison planet for questioning. No one is exempt from breaking the rules and escaping universal security. :)<br />
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==<br />
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There was a force of renegade Sirians known unofficially as the "men in black," and they were captured in a sting operation by Sirian security personnel in 2006, while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia."<br />
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The Earthly counterparts of the MIBs are real and were set up in the late 1940s to create fear in the minds and hearts of members of the public, military UFO witnesses, as well as the establishment (Forrestal for example) who may seek to reveal the truth about UFOs visiting this planet...which the Truman administration decided to clamp down upon...<br />
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Asket, Nera and Billy having their photos taken together sounds very recreational, but was actually intended to serve a highly useful purpose in furnishing objective evidence that "aliens" are actual relatives of earth humans and not "bug-eyed monsters," as depicted by the media, with some deliberation I might add...<br />
Indeed, there are far more points of commonality that such photos would provide, especially considering the beauty of the women selected and the fact that they were relatives from the DAL universe...(Asket.)<br />
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Unfortunately, this benign intent was muddied by the cruel MIBs, using those doubles from the US show...rendering the pix null and void..<br />
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A shame Billy did not realise sooner that the photographer (with a little persuading) had conned him with fakes.. <br />
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== MarksmanR said ... ==<br />
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Drekx, you twist truth with false tales.<br />
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"while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia.""<br />
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^ you made that up, it is not part of FIGU material, Cydonia doesn't exist.<br />
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--[[User:MarksmanR|MarksmanR]] 16:34, 23 August 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==<br />
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MarksmanR,<br />
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Cydonia is a well known region mapped by Earth astronomers and astro-cartographers and named by them; "cydonia." So your ignorant claims of "false tales," are falsehoods in themselves and I don't like your tone...<br />
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First of all, FIGU material is not a new religion that demands blind obedience from it's "followers."<br />
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Second, the Plejaren do not always expect you to follow everything in the reports, as if it were holy rit.<br />
You are supposed to supplement their data with your own, when possible. So if mention is made of X, you should appreciate it's correlation to Y.<br />
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Thirdly, the contact reports do mention the very "sting operation" I mentioned, that ocurred at the Cydonia region complex of monuments upon the Martian surface...<br />
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I'll attach the contact report by Ptaah for your perusal and education....<br />
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http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Men_in_Black,_Mars_and_Meteors<br />
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--Drekx Omega 20:51, 23 August 2010 (BST)<br />
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TCFelon said:<br />
"Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics"<br />
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Drekx response:<br />
The Sirians did capture their own renagade MIBs in 2006, ending a dangerous operation against the Plejaren programme with Meier...<br />
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So contrary to popular belief, the Sirians are well known allies of the Plejaren, even if this is not mentioned much in the contact notes, for whatever reason...<br />
The rare exceptions being contact reports 311 and 471...grateful to them for that coverage, so thanks to Billy and Ptaah.<br />
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Now with reference to the Earth human MIBs...they are operatives for the American Military-industrial complex of corporations...<br />
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Under the laws of human freewill and non interference, neither the Sirians nor Plejaren were able to prevent their mischief, at the time of the Nera/Asket photo fix..<br />
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However, with rising human consciousness and full Sirian mandate, that right to protect this planet's people with fairness, is increasingly placing pressure on the evil doers who run the NSA, MIBs, etc, etc...<br />
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Maybe if Meier were allowed to try this again, although the Plejaren would not want to risk his life, or that of his family...<br />
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It really is dependent on a change in the way this planet is secretly governed, so politics and economics require to be addressed..<br />
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Incidentally, there are no ET rulers running the human elites, no "reptiles," etc...just bad human beings running banks, governments, corporations and security..<br />
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--Drekx Omega 13:55, 24 August 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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how can we see the real pictures .<br />
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--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 03:38, 3 September 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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Ashegheaty, Theyfly.com has some nice pictures.Don't worry about photoshopping the pictues Asket AND Nera according to reports are in the DAL universe and cannot be affected by our Earth degeneracies. :)<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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i meant real pictures of asket , i searched the entire internet and couldnt find any real pictures of here , can any one help .<br />
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--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 01:52, 5 September 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Jamesm said ... ==<br />
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Ashegheaty, I think only Billy knows which one is real since he met her face-to-face. But with this in mind it could be the one on the left below: [[File:The real asket.png]]<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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thanks jamesm , i guess those are the long ear lobs that she has . so the timmers have longer earlobs just like the pleiadians . or maybe this is semjase .are you sure this is asket the lady from trillions of light years away , the twin universe of ours .?<br />
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--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 04:54, 9 September 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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another question :the pleiadians can time travel so they can travel to the future so much that they can see when our universe has became an absolute absolutum but they say they cant go beyond the seventh great time .so thats only 15 thousand trillion years from now and still a long way for us to become an absolutum , whats there limitation .and the other thing is they know whats gonna happen to humanity in the next 100 , 200 and 1000 years .and if we are going to destroy our self<br />
they know . but they cant interfere in our evolution . <br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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You can tell through the eyes. It is best to meet them in person because looks can sometimes be manipulated. If you were to meet someone and see natural eye movement relating to certain topics and how they react you will know if they are genuine or fake.:)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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The truth is beautiful. The Truth is that Billy should be given a Hero Status for enduring all he has in order to bring this information to the world. I am trying to spread the word of all that has happened and give poeple hope as well as to bring the other truth of Roswell NM. Bob Lasar, Edgar Fouche, Phil Schneider, Gary Mckinnon, Norwegian Politician, and Billy Meier and the Pleiadian Message.. Saalome.<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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It's so easy to determine who is Asket by using your 6th sense of intuition. With many of BEAM's materials, such "hidden" connections are to be discovered by your inner-self, devoid of ego or assumptions that many restrict themselves unfortunately.<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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I agree 110% with Hawaiian.............or maybe not.:)<br />
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I agree, the fact that such effort went into forgery of the Photo's of Asket and Nera are more proof that the contacts are & were real. I have personaly seen evidence that the US Government is in search for Plejaren (The good ones) and that they are working with the Baffath sect of Plejaren. It is a sickening truth to me that I live in a country that would sell their own people for technology but it is the truth. They have gone so far as to work with other Dark Ones and combine technologies and use them to try to control the masses. To date this has been a success, however I and a few others have come forward to provide proof that we are being implanted with control devices that actualy prevent us from meditating and push negative thoughts on us as well. I share this info through my website on YouTube when asked, just goto my channel, sweet6b9. Peace & Wisdom Billy Meier. You are a blessing to the Human Race.<br />
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== CriticalThinker said ... ==<br />
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What an utterly preposterous and lame excuse!<br />
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Meier has been caught red-handed faking these and the dinosaur photos.<br />
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Do you people have no ability to think critically?<br />
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== Sanjin said ... ==<br />
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Hi CriticalThinker.<br />
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I've read all of your comments and my thinking has told me that you most likely don't even know what critical thinking means. If you do, your posts are not showing that at all. The word "critical" in the context of critical thinking does not mean negative or disapproving or denigrating thinking, which is what the majority of your posts are based on. You should start representing your nickname a little better by educating yourself on what critical thinking actually means by studying this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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I agree with Sanjin, it has already been made clear in the contact notes that the photo's were faked and returned to Billy and that at a later date that Quetzl destroyed them all due to the numerous forgeries. In fact they also mention how it was proven that the forgery of Asket & Nera was not taken from a TV Screen as they tried to claim, that upon closer inspection you could not see the 3 color pixilation that would have appeared if it had been taken from a TV Set. CriticalThinker sounds like a Disinformation Agent, why would someone who feels this is untrue even bother to create an account or leave messages? They wouldn't! Peace & Wisdom<br />
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Can anyone tell me if the galactic federation/ashtar command/andromeda council are real or disinfo?<br />
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Criticalthinker hahahahahahaha thats the funniest name that is filled with your hypocrisy you are a disinfo jackwagon and dont even know it....who brainwashed you? You must be from the U.S.<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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To Critical Thinker, aka daisycutter. The pterodactyl photos are not the same. I tried to point that out to you but you banned me from your youtube site as do all the tards who don't want any views which are aren't in agreement with their own views. There are about 10 differences between the pictures. I guess you don't have an eye for detail.<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Sheila - I have a youtube site also, it is the same name as on here, sweet6b9. Feel free to contact me there or send a message if that is still possible with the new layout. I seriously think they changed it to make it harder for me to share the meditation info or the other info I share regarding William Cooper and Phil Schneider who also spoke about Billy Meiers contacts being real. Have you used the Meditation Exercise precisely the way that Billy said to do it? I would be interested in sharing info if you have or had any difficulties. I have some suggestions that help people to stay focused during the meditation.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 08:22, 3 May 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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JamesM - I cannot leave a reply to you on Main Page? I appologize if I deleted anything, I may have been correcting my own text and certainly did not realize that I had deleted anyone elses text so again I appologize. Apparently there are some Disinfo Agents on here (MIB) and they have tried to ridicule what I know. I will not argue with them. Billy's contacts were very real and I found the proof while working for the U.S. Government. This led me to the Meditation Exercise Billy provided to us. This has been a life changing realization and things have happened. I respect all that Billy has to say and I only hope that others can also think logicly and realize that in the contact notes when they told Billy that they could not discuss what was happening in America it was to protect him. Things are bad here, I am tring to wake people up here but it is slow going. I am not alone. Feel free to contact me. I wish we could leave personal messages for each other on this website so I could speak to individuals here. I would have put this in a personal message to you instead of posting it so I appologize for this also. Blessings to you for maintaining the site and continuing to share the truth from Billy Meiers.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 08:30, 3 May 2012 (BST)<br />
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== david said ... ==<br />
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i wondered why he would take a photo of tv screen when he had so much other undeniable evidence, this seems like an unlikely but rational explanation as it would be seem very out of character 2 forge the photo, ive read alot of know it all debunkers on youtube and beyond with there silly ''rational'' explanation, the miniture trees etc! i get angry at people like that but i guess they are on there on path. i just dont know why they go to the bother if they rnt interested!<br />
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== zameen said ... ==<br />
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People go to such lengths to cover up and or try to falsify the truth in order to keep profit streams alive. A disgusting practice but a reality nonetheless<br />
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== TCFelon said ... ==<br />
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Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics. and other unique proofs and have them circulate safely around the world as, Billy, his associates, on ground and above and I would like.. I guess I inadvertently lied to a few of my friends about some of the photos. I hope one day soon we ,(all of us around the world) can get together without any uncomfortable thoughts/feelings of deceit or any prejudged feelings of hate, jealously and anger towards next man 'and or entity.' Peace/Wisdom/Love/Truth. To the Plejaren Fed. and their wonderful associates. <br />
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William C.<br />
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--[[User:TCFelon|TCFelon]] 18:56, 29 March 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I agree TCFelon but if they had to capture everybody who falsifies Billy's work and those that lack sincerity and genuineness it would probably take all eternity. They will probably only stop the most heinous pretenders. :) The photos are rather interesting because they say that Asket and Nera are from another universe thus they don't mind there photos being here. Due to the creativity and level of lowness some beings can reach they altered it so they are dancers on a talk show. That calls for a Billy uppercut to the nose. j/k<br />
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--Mark 22:28, 29 March 2010 (BST)<br />
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== tom said ... ==<br />
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Próby zamachów na Zycie Billego świadczą o niczym innym tylko o tym, że mówi on prawdę. To samo tyczy sie zafalszowywania jego zdjęć. <br />
Ci którzy znają temat szaraków i replitalian wiedzą kto to są "ludzie" w czerni... im najmniej zależy na poznaniu przez ludzi prawdy, prawdy, która przecież wyzwala, wyzwala z więzów zniewolenia..<br />
Meier od samego początku, jak zapoznałem się z jego osobą, wyzwala we mnie zaufanie... Jest zupełnie niepodobnym do tych co gonią za władzą i towarzyszącą jej ułudą pieniądza. Zna wiele praw duchowych i sam żyje wedle nich, więc mało prawdopodobne jest to, że próbowałby robić jakiekolwiek fałszerstwa, a tym bardziej, jak niektóre źródła jemu zarzucają, w celu zdobycia sławy lub majątku.<br />
Bardziej mają powody ku temu ci, którzy obawiają się zaistnienia tych praw w ludzkich sercach i umysłach, bo to rujnuje ich starania o zniewolenie gatunku ludzkiego.<br />
Więcej niczego chyba nie trzeba tu dodawać. Przynajmniej ode mnie to wszystko.<br />
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BEAM is awesome, thank you ! controlledfollymaker@gmail.com<br />
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== Matt C. said ... ==<br />
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This guy is a Fraud. His website is down, and he's far from credible. This is the person who would says that the aliens sent the blueprints for their (trashcan lid looking) UFO's to the wrong people who ended up making them into trash can lids... seriously?<br />
David doesn't know the difference between There and Their, so his opinion is out. <br />
Is it harder to cover up the "truth" or to fall into the cross hairs of a conman?<br />
I'm going with Occam's Razor on this one. This solution is the simplest, obvious, one; this man is a fraud. <br />
This post will probably be deleted. Just saying...<br />
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== Neckel said ... ==<br />
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no your comment won't get deleted.......... haha it is always interesting to see people who come with information from second or even third hand and make judgments about others without having a clue of the person itself...... this is present in almost everyones life and i bet some judge you also in the same way. I bet you come after me when i do a "spelling" error like David did...... if one has nothing else to offer then one goes after the small and unimportant things, right ;)). If you find sth. with a higher ethic and a higher sense of moral then we can talk again. (Do not come with religions, most of them preach love and make war.) I wish you good luck in your search for the truth.<br />
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Couple things I don't understand. These are not in any certain order. <br />
1. You sell these photos. So Wouldn't any copy predating 1984 be of the original photo? And if so, how similar to the forgery are they?<br />
2. How did you find out Mr. S was working for the MIB and when? <br />
3. If Mr. S disappeared one day without a trace, how did his organization learn of his death?<br />
4. If Billy was told in 1984 these were forgeries, but yet forgot due to amnesia sustained in 1982, how was he able to recollect the origin of his nickname and the first and last name of the woman who gave it to her during an interview in 1982? Was it selected amnesia or partial?<br />
5. If you have a photo of Mr. S and factual evidence he worked for MIB, why not release that info? seems it would clear some up some of the misconceptions.<br />
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If I understood correctly MIB is not Will Smith or Tommy Lee Jones OR from our planet. They are from the Sirian region from an alternate time space bred to cause headaches on Earth. If this info is false however there is only one solution to ponder. Is Billy really Billy or is hea fake Billy? In that case arrest Billy, Asket, Nera, we have there photos and Quetzal, Ptaah, Semjase and send them to the prison planet for questioning. No one is exempt from breaking the rules and escaping universal security. :)<br />
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There was a force of renegade Sirians known unofficially as the "men in black," and they were captured in a sting operation by Sirian security personnel in 2006, while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia."<br />
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The Earthly counterparts of the MIBs are real and were set up in the late 1940s to create fear in the minds and hearts of members of the public, military UFO witnesses, as well as the establishment (Forrestal for example) who may seek to reveal the truth about UFOs visiting this planet...which the Truman administration decided to clamp down upon...<br />
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Asket, Nera and Billy having their photos taken together sounds very recreational, but was actually intended to serve a highly useful purpose in furnishing objective evidence that "aliens" are actual relatives of earth humans and not "bug-eyed monsters," as depicted by the media, with some deliberation I might add...<br />
Indeed, there are far more points of commonality that such photos would provide, especially considering the beauty of the women selected and the fact that they were relatives from the DAL universe...(Asket.)<br />
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Unfortunately, this benign intent was muddied by the cruel MIBs, using those doubles from the US show...rendering the pix null and void..<br />
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A shame Billy did not realise sooner that the photographer (with a little persuading) had conned him with fakes.. <br />
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Drekx, you twist truth with false tales.<br />
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"while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia.""<br />
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^ you made that up, it is not part of FIGU material, Cydonia doesn't exist.<br />
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Cydonia is a well known region mapped by Earth astronomers and astro-cartographers and named by them; "cydonia." So your ignorant claims of "false tales," are falsehoods in themselves and I don't like your tone...<br />
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First of all, FIGU material is not a new religion that demands blind obedience from it's "followers."<br />
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Second, the Plejaren do not always expect you to follow everything in the reports, as if it were holy rit.<br />
You are supposed to supplement their data with your own, when possible. So if mention is made of X, you should appreciate it's correlation to Y.<br />
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Thirdly, the contact reports do mention the very "sting operation" I mentioned, that ocurred at the Cydonia region complex of monuments upon the Martian surface...<br />
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I'll attach the contact report by Ptaah for your perusal and education....<br />
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http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Men_in_Black,_Mars_and_Meteors<br />
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TCFelon said:<br />
"Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics"<br />
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The Sirians did capture their own renagade MIBs in 2006, ending a dangerous operation against the Plejaren programme with Meier...<br />
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So contrary to popular belief, the Sirians are well known allies of the Plejaren, even if this is not mentioned much in the contact notes, for whatever reason...<br />
The rare exceptions being contact reports 311 and 471...grateful to them for that coverage, so thanks to Billy and Ptaah.<br />
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Now with reference to the Earth human MIBs...they are operatives for the American Military-industrial complex of corporations...<br />
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Under the laws of human freewill and non interference, neither the Sirians nor Plejaren were able to prevent their mischief, at the time of the Nera/Asket photo fix..<br />
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However, with rising human consciousness and full Sirian mandate, that right to protect this planet's people with fairness, is increasingly placing pressure on the evil doers who run the NSA, MIBs, etc, etc...<br />
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Maybe if Meier were allowed to try this again, although the Plejaren would not want to risk his life, or that of his family...<br />
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It really is dependent on a change in the way this planet is secretly governed, so politics and economics require to be addressed..<br />
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Incidentally, there are no ET rulers running the human elites, no "reptiles," etc...just bad human beings running banks, governments, corporations and security..<br />
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==<br />
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how can we see the real pictures .<br />
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Ashegheaty, Theyfly.com has some nice pictures.Don't worry about photoshopping the pictues Asket AND Nera according to reports are in the DAL universe and cannot be affected by our Earth degeneracies. :)<br />
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i meant real pictures of asket , i searched the entire internet and couldnt find any real pictures of here , can any one help .<br />
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Ashegheaty, I think only Billy knows which one is real since he met her face-to-face. But with this in mind it could be the one on the left below: [[File:The real asket.png]]<br />
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thanks jamesm , i guess those are the long ear lobs that she has . so the timmers have longer earlobs just like the pleiadians . or maybe this is semjase .are you sure this is asket the lady from trillions of light years away , the twin universe of ours .?<br />
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another question :the pleiadians can time travel so they can travel to the future so much that they can see when our universe has became an absolute absolutum but they say they cant go beyond the seventh great time .so thats only 15 thousand trillion years from now and still a long way for us to become an absolutum , whats there limitation .and the other thing is they know whats gonna happen to humanity in the next 100 , 200 and 1000 years .and if we are going to destroy our self<br />
they know . but they cant interfere in our evolution . <br />
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You can tell through the eyes. It is best to meet them in person because looks can sometimes be manipulated. If you were to meet someone and see natural eye movement relating to certain topics and how they react you will know if they are genuine or fake.:)<br />
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The truth is beautiful. The Truth is that Billy should be given a Hero Status for enduring all he has in order to bring this information to the world. I am trying to spread the word of all that has happened and give poeple hope as well as to bring the other truth of Roswell NM. Bob Lasar, Edgar Fouche, Phil Schneider, Gary Mckinnon, Norwegian Politician, and Billy Meier and the Pleiadian Message.. Saalome.<br />
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It's so easy to determine who is Asket by using your 6th sense of intuition. With many of BEAM's materials, such "hidden" connections are to be discovered by your inner-self, devoid of ego or assumptions that many restrict themselves unfortunately.<br />
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I agree 110% with Hawaiian.............or maybe not.:)<br />
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I agree, the fact that such effort went into forgery of the Photo's of Asket and Nera are more proof that the contacts are & were real. I have personaly seen evidence that the US Government is in search for Plejaren (The good ones) and that they are working with the Baffath sect of Plejaren. It is a sickening truth to me that I live in a country that would sell their own people for technology but it is the truth. They have gone so far as to work with other Dark Ones and combine technologies and use them to try to control the masses. To date this has been a success, however I and a few others have come forward to provide proof that we are being implanted with control devices that actualy prevent us from meditating and push negative thoughts on us as well. I share this info through my website on YouTube when asked, just goto my channel, sweet6b9. Peace & Wisdom Billy Meier. You are a blessing to the Human Race.<br />
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What an utterly preposterous and lame excuse!<br />
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Meier has been caught red-handed faking these and the dinosaur photos.<br />
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Do you people have no ability to think critically?<br />
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Hi CriticalThinker.<br />
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I've read all of your comments and my thinking has told me that you most likely don't even know what critical thinking means. If you do, your posts are not showing that at all. The word "critical" in the context of critical thinking does not mean negative or disapproving or denigrating thinking, which is what the majority of your posts are based on. You should start representing your nickname a little better by educating yourself on what critical thinking actually means by studying this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking<br />
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I agree with Sanjin, it has already been made clear in the contact notes that the photo's were faked and returned to Billy and that at a later date that Quetzl destroyed them all due to the numerous forgeries. In fact they also mention how it was proven that the forgery of Asket & Nera was not taken from a TV Screen as they tried to claim, that upon closer inspection you could not see the 3 color pixilation that would have appeared if it had been taken from a TV Set. CriticalThinker sounds like a Disinformation Agent, why would someone who feels this is untrue even bother to create an account or leave messages? They wouldn't! Peace & Wisdom<br />
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Can anyone tell me if the galactic federation/ashtar command/andromeda council are real or disinfo?<br />
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Criticalthinker hahahahahahaha thats the funniest name that is filled with your hypocrisy you are a disinfo jackwagon and dont even know it....who brainwashed you? You must be from the U.S.<br />
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To Critical Thinker, aka daisycutter. The pterodactyl photos are not the same. I tried to point that out to you but you banned me from your youtube site as do all the tards who don't want any views which are aren't in agreement with their own views. There are about 10 differences between the pictures. I guess you don't have an eye for detail.<br />
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Sheila - I have a youtube site also, it is the same name as on here, sweet6b9. Feel free to contact me there or send a message if that is still possible with the new layout. I seriously think they changed it to make it harder for me to share the meditation info or the other info I share regarding William Cooper and Phil Schneider who also spoke about Billy Meiers contacts being real. Have you used the Meditation Exercise precisely the way that Billy said to do it? I would be interested in sharing info if you have or had any difficulties. I have some suggestions that help people to stay focused during the meditation.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 08:22, 3 May 2012 (BST)<br />
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I know that the Mission is real. I cannot say how I know this, but be aware. The Dark Ones have Brain monitoring devices, they give to the secret US Government. They are real, they put them in with Transporter technology. They used it to see my thoughts, scan my brain, they tried to hurt me many times now, tried to stop my heart, even make me sick. It will not work. The Pleadians must know of this technology and that they use it against us and them. They saw through my eyes. It is dangerous here, I am in the USA in Virginia, very close to the Heart of Darkness. I have awoken my Kundalini, and I fight still to spread the word.<br />
May Creation Bless Billy & his Family, May Creation Bless us ALL.<br />
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Im still here and Im still spreading the truth about Billy Meiers contacts and the Meditation Exercise. I am in direct conflict with the Lower Dimensional Beings that are trying to control us. I will win because I have faith in my spirit and I have found evidence that the CIA has the original photo's that were never returned to Billy. Also the NAVY is involved in trying to conceal the truth about his contacts and the Meditation Exercise. Everyone should use the Meditation Exercise and you must use focus like a soldier uses focus to fight, but keep Love and Compassion in your heart when you Meditate and be sure to maintain focus or it is pointless.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 08:03, 3 May 2012 (BST)<br />
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Peace in Wisdom Billy. May we be responsible for our own actions and step up against those Dark Ones that are now in control in our Worlds Governments. They can be known as NWO, Illuminati, VRIL Society, Skull & Bones, and they convene at Bohemian Grove!! I have seen evidence to support all that you have given, here in the USA in the Government where I have worked. I am aware that the Plajaren came and offered their help but were treated poorly and turned away. Now the Dark Ones and the Grey are in control of our Navy & Airforce & Secret Intelligence Agencies. The Army is ill equiped to defend against their technology. My spirit is awake and I fight for my life, they steel my sleep and push dreams on me and they have implanted my body to try to prevent me from meditation. I have seen things all my life but tell no one until now.<br />
Billy, I need to let you know what is going to happen the way I see it. See YouTube for video "NASA Sun Objects", they seem to be destroying the sun. Is it possible the sun will turn Red and the Moon? The HAARP weapon has depleated our ionosphere. The ones in charge think they will live deep within the earth and on the Moon and Mars where we now have military forces. They are unaware that they are being deceived even though they have been lied to over and over. I tell them again and again but they do not care what I say.<br />
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Peace in wisdom Billy, You are a HERO in my book always and your message has saved my life so far! I have made mistakes but I try still.<br />
I fear Ptaah has been taken to Aldeberan for helping me. Something about violating the Covenant?? But I called to him to ask for help for the innocent that are being taken. You need not reply to that. I only hope I have the strength you had in the past to face my challenge ahead. You should know that the Black Delta ships are back and they are making more in Dulce NM in the USA close to a place called Area 51.<br />
Peace in Wisdom,<br />
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Can you help me with a land mark proximity of the 3rd Nuclear Facility in Iran!! Please..<br />
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Sorry, I am unfamiliar with any land marks in Iran. My appologies.<br />
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Things happen all the time but because now facts and figures get reported though out the world 1000 times faster than just 100 years ago ... because we here about every thing all the time as soon as it happens no mater where it happens at... we know about it with in mins. things always happen but thanks to radio TV the internet ect...we here about now and all the time over and over again...<br />
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i should add... things that happen now have happen 100 years ago 1000 years ago 10,000 years agoo a million years ago ./.. but now we just here about it now over and over again as soon as it happens ... things are getting worse are better... the world and its weather is just alive as a living world that makes changes to its self on a dailey bases<br />
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things arent getting worse ... ARE'NT ! <br />
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I was wondering if any of you psychics or enlightened ones know what will occur on 28/10/11. This date is coming up really fast and i'm getting worried.<br />
This is the official end date of the mayan calander and also for those of you who are into your numerology 2+8+1=11 therefore 11/11. This is significant I know it! <br />
What i've read so far seems to be very pessimistic. I try to remain a positive spirit none the less but I would love to know the truth about this date.<br />
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Anyone care to ellaborate?<br />
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WHEN WE AWAKE WE HAVE TWO SIMPLE CHOICES, <br />
GO BACK TO SLEEP AND DREAM<br />
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WAKE UP AND CHASE THOSE DREAMS<br />
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Violetlight. hello and welcome to the BEAM wiki site:) I believe the answer's you seek are well written and logged here in the contact reports section. just use the search function and type in a search. I believe that Billy had explained that the Mayans stopped making the calendar primarily because their civilization was collapsing in on itself due to poor water supplies,devastating droughts, famine, and overpopulation, and they could no longer devote precious time to the calendar. according to this information, they did not possess any mystical knowledge of any sort and knew nothing of an "end of the world" scenario.<br />
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Thank you for you replies and I can say I finally know. I spent months piecing together the puzzle and trying to make sense of a childhood dream I never forgot. The dream was a kaleidoscope of many colours swirling around. Ulrika! The violet light has guided me all this time. Archangel Zadkiel and the amethyst. I never really thought anything of it until my dad passed away last December two days after my birthday and I put an amethyst bracelet in his hand the next day in the chapel of rest. On the way home his favorite song came on the radio. :)<br />
Anyway I looked this up a few months ago when I first heard about all the nibiru shindig and 2012 theories. Because the violet colour popped into my head. So I looked up the amethyst and lone behold archangel Zadkiel! :) So I now know my dad is o.k and it was something I did out of pure love and didnt even realise it. <br />
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I've always been interested in tarot and just general open-mindedness and I have to say the way things are perceived on tv or on the radio are shocking. IT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE AND DOES NOT REFLECT REALITY IN ANY WAY! YOU CANNOT LEARN ANYTHING FROM TV OR SCHOOL OR GOVERNMENT. We learn only by looking inside our souls to the depth of our hearts.<br />
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I know alot of you are going to think i'm crazy! But please I promise you there is something amazing for you all if you want it, not just for yourself but for the benefit of all. Thats the lesson in life. The Pleidians have and are continuing to be amazing and they deserve our gratitude. Thanks for your help guys! <br />
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You can learn from TV, school, and government in certain way. Example would be school allows you to meet different people thus opening your eyes to each unique situation an individual has thus having a wider range of knowledge etc, and TV is great to learn cooking and such, governments of our planet well let's say it has a loooooooong ways to go before a correctly implemented structure but at least they are trying. :)<br />
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Violetlight - don't get confused with 20/12/2012 (or 12/20/2012 which ever date type you use), that's the end of the Mayan Calendar, not 28 Oct 2011. Although the 28th Oct is said to be important in the ongoing financial crisis we've had thrust upon us. It's believed our system will collapse by then (only a few days to go) and we'll be in survival mode in more ways than one. Hang on to your seats - we're in for a tough ride spiritually, financially and mentally. Other than that, I believe the Mayan calendar may just be like ours in some ways, it's near the end and so it begins again - nothing sinister there.<br />
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you are the same as the people that are trying to run this planet .and i think if you understand what the et.so called pladians have done in time past then they are at fault to.now you want to give a woman a pill to stop them haveing kids.and you did not want to stick your nose in .give the pill to the men of this world not the woman. you wont do a thing about the weopons and the people running this planet as you say that you are sticking your nose in.so what is giveing a woman a pill then. population my foot deal with the important things on this world first .like nuclear and biological stuff first.you pladians think the same way has the powers that be on this planet .BACKWARDS. so much for being the inteligent ones<br />
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i bet now you will kick me of this site,the soon as a guy speaks his mind of you go.well lets see.ptaah why is it that your family are charged with the earth .started with sfath then you then quintzel.then semjase.asket.its one family who do you talk to do you sit and talk to billy or do you go home and report to them about things .if people where free to work the land and have there own bit then we would not need the pill this planet if one looks after oners self will carry more .you have to work it so each one get a slice of land .there is planty of space on this planet. no lets just give a woman a pill. now listen in or out no more playing games like you are gods in or out help or note .if so then help with the important things if not then go home and let things be the way they are till the big bang.you are getting to my karma yet you wont talk to me or face me one to one .you will say are but we cant stick our nose in.but you give a woman a pill. you talk to billy great but what the hell can one man do not a lot .so i through billy know you are there well done is that it.even if the whole world knew you was there so what then .you still cant stick your nose in as you say.get all of us to meditate then what we still have to work and do things just to live .i am halve way through the goblet of truth and so far i have to say its very repetative stuff. i know there is no gods tin gods or anything like that god is in everyman yeha. but i am no more of a man now then when i started to read it .i can go on for hours i am at the end of my rope.contenplating life and it dont look good<br />
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I wont ban you as you are not being insulting or anything like that. You are speaking/writing your mind which is always good in my opinion (unless you are trying to protect someone from harm of course).<br />
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So you dont agree with the Birth Control ideas on this website? Is it because you think that it isnt overpopulated? Even when people live like animals in crowded, dirty slums. Dont you think everyone deserves to have a decent home with plenty of land around it so you can nurture nature with your own hands, head and spirit? I want everyone to live in peace without suffering and if that means birth control and higher taxes then I would gladly support. Weapons are also a problem I agree but anything can be a weapon in the hands of a psychopath and how do psychopaths come into existence? Does the trail of evidence nearly always lead back to an abusive childhood without love or wise parental advice on why we exist and our objectives in the universe? I think it probably does.<br />
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Why are you at the end of the rope? You sir/madam are a spark of Creation. We are part of the same being. If you suffer, so do I. Be neutral positive and remember that your problems are only passing. Even if you have a lifelong problem, it is only one life of millions you already have had and will have. And it can only get better as you reincarnate over and over until...pure spiritform existence where you can travel instantaneously anywhere in the Creation. Or so I'm led to understand. <br />
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Have you read http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Thoughts_about_Worries_of_Yesterday,_Today_and_Tomorrow ?<br />
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hi james. fist i want to say that i am sorry to get at you or anyone. i get so angry sometimes when i here that a person as come up with a silly idea to the population of this planet is to give a woman a pill. i dont have kids but wish i did.but i would not vote to get a woman a pill when i would cladly take it. you see a woman as each month as you know a period .well to me that would be for those who are tring to have kids would be wrong its cruel to let a woman know she is born to have kids but cant how does a person tell the woman of this world you cant have kids anymore you cant.i think that you need to do a council of woman from here and from the dern planet so you can both talk and decide what is best.2 life for some people on this planet is bad yes but that is only because of the people that are in charge greed as taken a hold of this planet and it wont let go yet..i think i understand why billy cant tell us stuff yet the more i find out the more annoyed i get with the way life is.3 i really dont think that the planet is over populated i think that they gaver in city and towns to be close to one and another like a big family i think that if we all had the same size land to work on and develope things i thing might be different.have you herd of the thrase catch 22 well i beleive that a lot of people are caught up in it..birth control and higher taxes wont do it you will greate more bad people .yes i am a spark of creation i know that but at this time i feel that the more i learn about things the more my hands are tied and it gets to me that one cant help people. as for the life i had before i dont know of it was i good or was i bad i dont know so where is the learning if i cant remember.let me ask you this if a guy come to you and says on the 21 december you will have a solar flare .is that it how long what time will it knock out the lights will it brake stuff will the people go nuts what. you cant say crap like that to people with out given them more to go on to decide to get wood or place to go or by stuff to be ready for it.as for me i am 52 and my childhood was no picnic but i know not to pick up a gun or a knife i was picked on and beaten but i never wanted to kill a person i am not afraid of death iknow that life goes on .its the monetery system that you have to get rid of first... i see what they are trying to do .let the population go down before the monetery system collapses that way you have less death.a guy will kill a guy just to feed his kid but if the population was smaller you wont have that problem .james are you like me just a guy that asked questions who are you. i am sergio leone aka leslie carter... do you know billy or his friends or am i just talking to the mail man down the street.lol..sergio<br />
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james you gave me a page to read and i did read it.the worrie i have comes from billy on his site it says that we will have a flare solar flare 21 december 2012 now you know and i know that cant be stopped so we have to deal with it good .but my worrie is will it last a week a month or a year will i need more food should i buy more should i get more water or juice .or do i just say what the hell and just wait for the day. must get back to the goblet of truth .thx sergio out<br />
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Hi again Sergio, I understand what you mean about not allowing women to have kids but this is not what FIGU are proposing. They propose that the population can be reduced by having 7 year period of no births followed by 1 year of procreation/giving birth, followed by another 7 years of no births etc etc. Everyone can have kids as long as they meet the requirements, e.g. meet the minimum age requirement, get married first, dont have more than 3 kids, etc. <br />
I'm not going to prepare much for any possible disasters here in Scotland apart from maybe buy a lot of long lasting food and water such as rice, pasta, water bottles etc. Perhaps 1 months supply. In Scotland we never have droughts though so the probability of starvation is low.<br />
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You confused birth control with birth prevention. Birth control is a social project to limit the annual birth number, while birth prevention is an individual project to prevent the fertilization of female egg by male sprematozoa. The best way to do it, Blip, is not by giving pills to women, but by seriously applying The Great Law Of Coitus Interuptus, Blip.<br />
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== Blip1959 said ... ==<br />
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thx james for the reply.yes it sounds like a good idea 7 years of 1 year on.if there is no pill and its done by the peoples concent then i agree... by the way lucky you to live in the north scotland what a great place .when you mean water rice and stuff the solar flare is so big that i think it will take out power and cars that are now running by engine management systems and all electrical stuff tv .computers and so on maybe even a satelitte or 2..and you made me laugh about the coitus interuptus.lets get all the guys to have bells on.. thx james for all your help.salome.<br />
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Hi Blip, do you know what the birth control pill does? It basically makes the woman's body think it is already pregnant and then her body doesn't release an egg. Therefore no pregnancy can take place. There's nothing wrong with that and is very liberating for women because sometimes we just cannot rely on men concerning birth control :) Personally as a woman, I would not allow either politics or religion to make that choice for me. It's a informed choice to be made by a woman and her doctor, with of course input from the significant other. It's wonderful for women to have that choice and does not interfere with a womans ability to have children later on, in the case of the world wide birth stop. You are fretting about the pill for nothing.<br />
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thank you sheila it is good to get a reply by a woman that is in the know.as a guy i have watched the senate in the usa and the british parliment debate abortion and a womans right to have or have not kids.but i think that there should be a womans group that should debate it not men . but thx for your reply i wish you well.i am now for the birth control i in my stupidness never went to the bottom of the page that said 7years of and 1 year on.i just thought without thinking that they had just decided to give a woman a pill to stop haveing kids and i thought that it was unfare but i now know what they are trying to do. sorry to all.next time i will read up more lol<br />
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hello. ok first billy you kepted that one a secret .the galactic federation of light.cool<br />
if all goes well we will be in middle earth and things will change. cant wait. really looking forward to meeting all the galactic people .and to see who i was and what happen to me in past lives .it is almost to much to take in.but i need help i cant seem to meditate its so hard i try at the times you say but i guess i am waiting for a reply but not getting one.also when you tell people that things are going to happen and we will be all free and that et will help us to change and so on they look at you like you should be in a hospital lol.stillolypics are here soon and i love watching them .billy and the gang thx for all you have done and the rest of the federation that is working to give us a better live .love you all sergio<br />
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Billy have you heard " the thrive movement" this will help assist. The light tribe in higher conciousness its a 2 hour you tube movie. Everything is exposed for all to see, to learn to hear. Namaste <br />
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Billy have you heard " the thrive movement" this will help assist. The light tribe in higher conciousness its a 2 hour you tube movie. Everything is exposed for all to see, to learn to hear. Namaste <br />
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Blip1959 - I would like to offer you some help. There is a reason you are having trouble meditating. This is due to the Implant Technology that has been put in all of our bodies. Try this to get focus. Put some headphones on, play a copy of the 528 Hz Frequency on repeat at full volume. This will help to train your brain to ignore other thoughts. Keep your focus on the candle flame in your minds eye while repeating the word Sun. Be patient. You will not get a reply in the way you expect but it will come. It took me 2 hours of refocusing during this meditation with the sound playing at full volume before I was able to keep my focus and then I heard a computer sound in my mind. This was not normal or natural and there was no computers aroud that could have made the sound. So the focus worked and the meditation was working but thats when I realized that I had an implant that was designed to prevent me from keeping my focus and that it was what I was fighting when I had to keep pushing all of the other thoughts out of my mind. Someone doesn't want us to be succesful in our meditation. But I believe we can still beat it. Spirit over Computer. Keep up the meditation exercise and realize that it is an exercise. You have to do it every day and with more focus every day if you truely want to be succesful. I explain it to people like this.. Meditation is like exercise, Some people go for a walk to exercise and others lift weights, and still others work out every day for 6 hours a day (called body builders). Meditation is the same, if you want to get where Billy tells us we can get, you realy have to focus and be prepared to spend a few hours doing it or you will not be succesful. Use Focus and Effort like you would if you were trying to lift weights with your mind but always remember to not get angry and be patient. Focus on Love and Compassion within your heart as you increase your focus.<br />
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== weiveaste said ... ==<br />
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winsome answers i like it<br />
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The Hoaxers use the truth to tell their lies but the truth shines through and points humans who are looking for the truth to the True Prophet...BEAM.That is how I found Eduard and The Goblet of the Truth.<br />
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Extremely well presented, logically explained with reference sources, again hats off for Billy Meier!<br />
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Unfortunately we still have these delusional human parasites prostituting the Truth for their own ego and financial gain, misleading themselves and contributing to the degeneration and destruction of mankind. <br />
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Yet, they continue to consume their "blood money" derived from these Creational teachings brought about through sacrifices and numerous assassination attempts against Billy, who never receives a dime for his honorable services, which these materials would have not been made possible in the first place!<br />
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It would seem to me that when Terrestrial Human begin to traverse the Universe as the Plejaren do and our bodies become used to moving from a physical state into a Light Body state that it would promote the body's ability to begin to move into a 5th dimensional existance as it gets more and more used to shifting into that state of being.<br />
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Additionaly, Regarding the implant I have mentioned before, here are some links.. <br />
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN QUALIFIES, AS FACT THAT IMPLANTS ARE AMONG US NOW! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aNBssO4_do&feature=player_embedded <br />
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Listen to this man talk about billions of these implantable chips being created and then disappearing.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yytSNQ2ogD4 <br />
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See here how this technology is being displayed in its raw format without implant... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGNvP75UYGE <br />
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They have introduced a Bill in NY that litteraly gives Agencies the ability to implant us illegaly against our will with RFID chips and this Brain Scan technology. <br />
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Her is the Website: http://www.us-government-torture.com/ <br />
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Be assured, if they do it to us they plan to rule the world and do it to everyone. I have also communicated with a man in Germany who said that the BND are also using this technology against Germans. I fear History is repeating its-self.<br />
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Lastly, I have been trying to provide this link in relation to the BEAM mission and the associated materials also provided by Randolph Winters to Americans through YouTube. I also point out that both William Cooper and Phil Schneider both mention a Benevolent race that offered us help getting rid of the (Little Grey) but were turned away because they wanted the US to dissarm their Nuclear Missiles and that they offered to assist us with our Spiritual Awareness as we were not spiritualy advanced enough for their technology much less the technology we currently possessed at that time. These 2 people were assasinated for providing this info by the Secret Intelligence Agencies here that intend to keep Americans Blind to the truth of the BEAM Mission. I however continue to share the information even though they have discovered me and wish to prevent me from sharing it through threats and cooersion. <br />
I am also trying to contact various groups that represent a positive attitude toward Nature and living at Peace with other countries around the world to try to show them their commonalities and how they can support each other and become a more cohesive unit in their work to achieve all their seperate goals.<br />
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I have question about the zeta retucullin greys, what lineage are tehy from? are they lyrian, or sirian or outsode of Nokodaimon linegae.<br />
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To The UFO Guy, I am unsure what lineage, but I do know that they were Human once. That they looked much like us if not exactly like us but their DNA was degenerated by cloning when they were enslaved by the Draconian Reptilians.<br />
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wtf Sweet6b9? that ow reptilain control grey thing is a lie. Short greys are bio bots controled by tall greys and are not under any reptian control!<br />
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wtf Sweet6b9? that ow reptilain control grey thing is a lie. Short greys are bio bots controled by tall greys and are not under any reptian control!<br />
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.............Sweet6b9 the greys are the extras from that movie ET the extraterrestrial. I swear my brothers and sisters on Earth get a little too excited sometimes. :) <br />
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Again, I am not surprised to find Disinfo Agents on this site. I have over 15 years of experience working on Government Contracts and one thing I can say for sure is that the CIA worked hard and still work hard to hide the truth about the Billy Meier contacts. This is because they are working with the Dark ET or Lower Dimensional Beings. I want people to know the truth. The reason the Plejaren told Billy that they could not discuss what was happening in America is because the Corrupt Occult Organizations that control the government made them prommise not to tell. 9-11 was an inside job and it is connected to the NWO and it was used to start WWIII. These killers are working with the Draconian Reptilians and their slave race the Grey. Unless you want to become like the Grey, clones and Slaves, you need to wake up and listen to William Cooper and Phil Schneider, they were killed for telling the truth about this and the Billy Meier contacts. They protected Billy by not sharing this info with him. And rightly so. Billy is a Hero and a Profit of our time and people should realy listen closely to the contacts because they read like a good spy novel. Hidden messages. Listen to what is not said as much as what is said. Use the Meditation Exercise Billy gives with focus and real effort or it is pointless.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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<div>Be forwarned. The Secret Intelligence Agencies along with the Military Industrial Complex, World Wide Bankers, Corporate Leaders, Religious Leaders (Also Occult Leaders in some cases), Royalty (Kings & Queens) are all connected to the NWO and its plan to create a One World Government. The 9-11 Attacks were planned from within and were carried out by Certain Key individuals that have connections to Top Military Intelligence and equipment. This was done so they could begin invading other smaller countries and occupy them while they move to spread the US Army thin and reduce the number of people that could help the civilian population to survive or resist Martial Law.<br />
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There are Deep Underground Military Bases setup all over the Planet and Cloning technology is being used there. Also Genetic Manipulations are taking place and some of the results are being released into the wilderness. These Genegic Alterations were discussed by Ptaah and Billy in the contact notes and now I have confirmation that they are indeed taking place. I would also like to prepare and forwarn anyone reading this that the Comming Pole Shifts are going to cause a lot of damage. Please check the Edgar Cayce predictions for a possible view of what your country will look like after the poles shift. This is very important and I am unaware if Billy Meier was ever provided with any maps of what Switzerland would look like after the Earth changes. However I do know that they are comming in the year 2012 and may last into the year 2013. I do not know the extent of the damage but be assured that there will be earthquakes and Volcanic Eruptions and Massive water movement. It is not the end of the world just as the Plejaren stated in the contact notes but there will be much hardship and change for everyone.<br />
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== weiveaste said ... ==<br />
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winsome answers i like it<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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The Hoaxers use the truth to tell their lies but the truth shines through and points humans who are looking for the truth to the True Prophet...BEAM.That is how I found Eduard and The Goblet of the Truth.<br />
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 08:52, 9 May 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Extremely well presented, logically explained with reference sources, again hats off for Billy Meier!<br />
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Unfortunately we still have these delusional human parasites prostituting the Truth for their own ego and financial gain, misleading themselves and contributing to the degeneration and destruction of mankind. <br />
<br />
Yet, they continue to consume their "blood money" derived from these Creational teachings brought about through sacrifices and numerous assassination attempts against Billy, who never receives a dime for his honorable services, which these materials would have not been made possible in the first place!<br />
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--Hawaiian 20:19, 9 May 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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It would seem to me that when Terrestrial Human begin to traverse the Universe as the Plejaren do and our bodies become used to moving from a physical state into a Light Body state that it would promote the body's ability to begin to move into a 5th dimensional existance as it gets more and more used to shifting into that state of being.<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Additionaly, Regarding the implant I have mentioned before, here are some links.. <br />
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN QUALIFIES, AS FACT THAT IMPLANTS ARE AMONG US NOW! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aNBssO4_do&feature=player_embedded <br />
<br />
Listen to this man talk about billions of these implantable chips being created and then disappearing.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yytSNQ2ogD4 <br />
<br />
See here how this technology is being displayed in its raw format without implant... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGNvP75UYGE <br />
<br />
They have introduced a Bill in NY that litteraly gives Agencies the ability to implant us illegaly against our will with RFID chips and this Brain Scan technology. <br />
<br />
Her is the Website: http://www.us-government-torture.com/ <br />
<br />
Be assured, if they do it to us they plan to rule the world and do it to everyone. I have also communicated with a man in Germany who said that the BND are also using this technology against Germans. I fear History is repeating its-self.<br />
<br />
<br />
--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:09, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Lastly, I have been trying to provide this link in relation to the BEAM mission and the associated materials also provided by Randolph Winters to Americans through YouTube. I also point out that both William Cooper and Phil Schneider both mention a Benevolent race that offered us help getting rid of the (Little Grey) but were turned away because they wanted the US to dissarm their Nuclear Missiles and that they offered to assist us with our Spiritual Awareness as we were not spiritualy advanced enough for their technology much less the technology we currently possessed at that time. These 2 people were assasinated for providing this info by the Secret Intelligence Agencies here that intend to keep Americans Blind to the truth of the BEAM Mission. I however continue to share the information even though they have discovered me and wish to prevent me from sharing it through threats and cooersion. <br />
I am also trying to contact various groups that represent a positive attitude toward Nature and living at Peace with other countries around the world to try to show them their commonalities and how they can support each other and become a more cohesive unit in their work to achieve all their seperate goals.<br />
Peace & Wisdom<br />
<br />
--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:17, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==<br />
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I have question about the zeta retucullin greys, what lineage are tehy from? are they lyrian, or sirian or outsode of Nokodaimon linegae.<br />
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--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 07:46, 20 May 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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To The UFO Guy, I am unsure what lineage, but I do know that they were Human once. That they looked much like us if not exactly like us but their DNA was degenerated by cloning when they were enslaved by the Draconian Reptilians.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 07:42, 3 June 2011 (BST)<br />
</div></div>Sweet6b9https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:World_Events&diff=15874Talk:World Events2011-06-03T06:07:32Z<p>Sweet6b9: Comment provided by Sweet6b9 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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Peace in Wisdom Billy. May we be responsible for our own actions and step up against those Dark Ones that are now in control in our Worlds Governments. They can be known as NWO, Illuminati, VRIL Society, Skull & Bones, and they convene at Bohemian Grove!! I have seen evidence to support all that you have given, here in the USA in the Government where I have worked. I am aware that the Plajaren came and offered their help but were treated poorly and turned away. Now the Dark Ones and the Grey are in control of our Navy & Airforce & Secret Intelligence Agencies. The Army is ill equiped to defend against their technology. My spirit is awake and I fight for my life, they steel my sleep and push dreams on me and they have implanted my body to try to prevent me from meditation. I have seen things all my life but tell no one until now.<br />
Billy, I need to let you know what is going to happen the way I see it. See YouTube for video "NASA Sun Objects", they seem to be destroying the sun. Is it possible the sun will turn Red and the Moon? The HAARP weapon has depleated our ionosphere. The ones in charge think they will live deep within the earth and on the Moon and Mars where we now have military forces. They are unaware that they are being deceived even though they have been lied to over and over. I tell them again and again but they do not care what I say.<br />
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Peace in wisdom Billy, You are a HERO in my book always and your message has saved my life so far! I have made mistakes but I try still.<br />
I fear Ptaah has been taken to Aldeberan for helping me. Something about violating the Covenant?? But I called to him to ask for help for the innocent that are being taken. You need not reply to that. I only hope I have the strength you had in the past to face my challenge ahead. You should know that the Black Delta ships are back and they are making more in Dulce NM in the USA close to a place called Area 51.<br />
Peace in Wisdom,<br />
Kevin<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 23:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Samari said ... ==<br />
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Can you help me with a land mark proximity of the 3rd Nuclear Facility in Iran!! Please..<br />
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--[[User:Samari|Samari]] 07:12, 21 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Sorry, I am unfamiliar with any land marks in Iran. My appologies.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 07:07, 3 June 2011 (BST)<br />
</div></div>Sweet6b9https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:World_Events&diff=15873Talk:World Events2011-06-03T06:03:41Z<p>Sweet6b9: </p>
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Peace in Wisdom Billy. May we be responsible for our own actions and step up against those Dark Ones that are now in control in our Worlds Governments. They can be known as NWO, Illuminati, VRIL Society, Skull & Bones, and they convene at Bohemian Grove!! I have seen evidence to support all that you have given, here in the USA in the Government where I have worked. I am aware that the Plajaren came and offered their help but were treated poorly and turned away. Now the Dark Ones and the Grey are in control of our Navy & Airforce & Secret Intelligence Agencies. The Army is ill equiped to defend against their technology. My spirit is awake and I fight for my life, they steel my sleep and push dreams on me and they have implanted my body to try to prevent me from meditation. I have seen things all my life but tell no one until now.<br />
Billy, I need to let you know what is going to happen the way I see it. See YouTube for video "NASA Sun Objects", they seem to be destroying the sun. Is it possible the sun will turn Red and the Moon? The HAARP weapon has depleated our ionosphere. The ones in charge think they will live deep within the earth and on the Moon and Mars where we now have military forces. They are unaware that they are being deceived even though they have been lied to over and over. I tell them again and again but they do not care what I say.<br />
<br />
Peace in wisdom Billy, You are a HERO in my book always and your message has saved my life so far! I have made mistakes but I try still.<br />
I fear Ptaah has been taken to Aldeberan for helping me. Something about violating the Covenant?? But I called to him to ask for help for the innocent that are being taken. You need not reply to that. I only hope I have the strength you had in the past to face my challenge ahead. You should know that the Black Delta ships are back and they are making more in Dulce NM in the USA close to a place called Area 51.<br />
Peace in Wisdom,<br />
Kevin<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 23:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Samari said ... ==<br />
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Can you help me with a land mark proximity of the 3rd Nuclear Facility in Iran!! Please..<br />
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--[[User:Samari|Samari]] 07:12, 21 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
</div></div>Sweet6b9https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:Billy_Meier%27s_mission&diff=15872Talk:Billy Meier's mission2011-06-03T05:54:33Z<p>Sweet6b9: </p>
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I know that the Mission is real. I cannot say how I know this, but be aware. The Dark Ones have Brain monitoring devices, they give to the secret US Government. They are real, they put them in with Transporter technology. They used it to see my thoughts, scan my brain, they tried to hurt me many times now, tried to stop my heart, even make me sick. It will not work. The Pleadians must know of this technology and that they use it against us and them. They saw through my eyes. It is dangerous here, I am in the USA in Virginia, very close to the Heart of Darkness. I have awoken my Kundalini, and I fight still to spread the word.<br />
May Creation Bless Billy & his Family, May Creation Bless us ALL.<br />
Love,<br />
Kevin Gaylord<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:47, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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I know that the Mission is real. I cannot say how I know this, but be aware. The Dark Ones have Brain monitoring devices, they give to the secret US Government. They are real, they put them in with Transporter technology. They used it to see my thoughts, scan my brain, they tried to hurt me many times now, tried to stop my heart, even make me sick. It will not work. The Pleadians must know of this technology and that they use it against us and them. They saw through my eyes a Pleadian ship and I fear Patel has been destroyed. It is dangerous here, I am in the USA in Virginia, very close to the Heart of Darkness. I have had visions of Patel since then fighting the Dark ones. I do not know if he is Ok or not. I fear he is angry with me for not having more control when the Dark ones had their device in me. He helped me break it but now they have newer devices that see through our eyes. I have awoken my Kundalini, my spirit inside with Pleadian help and I fight still to spread the word.<br />
May Creation Help us AlL, May Creation Bless Billy & his Family, May Creation Bless us ALL.<br />
Love,<br />
Kevin Gaylord<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:47, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
</div></div>Sweet6b9https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:FIGU_Bulletin_002&diff=14676Talk:FIGU Bulletin 0022011-03-03T20:17:17Z<p>Sweet6b9: Comment provided by Sweet6b9 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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== weiveaste said ... ==<br />
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winsome answers i like it<br />
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--weiveaste 03:49, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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The Hoaxers use the truth to tell their lies but the truth shines through and points humans who are looking for the truth to the True Prophet...BEAM.That is how I found Eduard and The Goblet of the Truth.<br />
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 08:52, 9 May 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Extremely well presented, logically explained with reference sources, again hats off for Billy Meier!<br />
<br />
Unfortunately we still have these delusional human parasites prostituting the Truth for their own ego and financial gain, misleading themselves and contributing to the degeneration and destruction of mankind. <br />
<br />
Yet, they continue to consume their "blood money" derived from these Creational teachings brought about through sacrifices and numerous assassination attempts against Billy, who never receives a dime for his honorable services, which these materials would have not been made possible in the first place!<br />
<br />
<br />
--Hawaiian 20:19, 9 May 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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It would seem to me that when Terrestrial Human begin to traverse the Universe as the Plejaren do and our bodies become used to moving from a physical state into a Light Body state that it would promote the body's ability to begin to move into a 5th dimensional existance as it gets more and more used to shifting into that state of being.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Additionaly, Regarding the implant I have mentioned before, here are some links.. <br />
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN QUALIFIES, AS FACT THAT IMPLANTS ARE AMONG US NOW! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aNBssO4_do&feature=player_embedded <br />
<br />
Listen to this man talk about billions of these implantable chips being created and then disappearing.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yytSNQ2ogD4 <br />
<br />
See here how this technology is being displayed in its raw format without implant... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGNvP75UYGE <br />
<br />
They have introduced a Bill in NY that litteraly gives Agencies the ability to implant us illegaly against our will with RFID chips and this Brain Scan technology. <br />
<br />
Her is the Website: http://www.us-government-torture.com/ <br />
<br />
Be assured, if they do it to us they plan to rule the world and do it to everyone. I have also communicated with a man in Germany who said that the BND are also using this technology against Germans. I fear History is repeating its-self.<br />
<br />
<br />
--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:09, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Lastly, I have been trying to provide this link in relation to the BEAM mission and the associated materials also provided by Randolph Winters to Americans through YouTube. I also point out that both William Cooper and Phil Schneider both mention a Benevolent race that offered us help getting rid of the (Little Grey) but were turned away because they wanted the US to dissarm their Nuclear Missiles and that they offered to assist us with our Spiritual Awareness as we were not spiritualy advanced enough for their technology much less the technology we currently possessed at that time. These 2 people were assasinated for providing this info by the Secret Intelligence Agencies here that intend to keep Americans Blind to the truth of the BEAM Mission. I however continue to share the information even though they have discovered me and wish to prevent me from sharing it through threats and cooersion. <br />
I am also trying to contact various groups that represent a positive attitude toward Nature and living at Peace with other countries around the world to try to show them their commonalities and how they can support each other and become a more cohesive unit in their work to achieve all their seperate goals.<br />
Peace & Wisdom<br />
<br />
--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:17, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
</div></div>Sweet6b9https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:FIGU_Bulletin_002&diff=14675Talk:FIGU Bulletin 0022011-03-03T20:09:30Z<p>Sweet6b9: Comment provided by Sweet6b9 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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== weiveaste said ... ==<br />
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winsome answers i like it<br />
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--weiveaste 03:49, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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The Hoaxers use the truth to tell their lies but the truth shines through and points humans who are looking for the truth to the True Prophet...BEAM.That is how I found Eduard and The Goblet of the Truth.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 08:52, 9 May 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Extremely well presented, logically explained with reference sources, again hats off for Billy Meier!<br />
<br />
Unfortunately we still have these delusional human parasites prostituting the Truth for their own ego and financial gain, misleading themselves and contributing to the degeneration and destruction of mankind. <br />
<br />
Yet, they continue to consume their "blood money" derived from these Creational teachings brought about through sacrifices and numerous assassination attempts against Billy, who never receives a dime for his honorable services, which these materials would have not been made possible in the first place!<br />
<br />
<br />
--Hawaiian 20:19, 9 May 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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It would seem to me that when Terrestrial Human begin to traverse the Universe as the Plejaren do and our bodies become used to moving from a physical state into a Light Body state that it would promote the body's ability to begin to move into a 5th dimensional existance as it gets more and more used to shifting into that state of being.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Additionaly, Regarding the implant I have mentioned before, here are some links.. <br />
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN QUALIFIES, AS FACT THAT IMPLANTS ARE AMONG US NOW! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aNBssO4_do&feature=player_embedded <br />
<br />
Listen to this man talk about billions of these implantable chips being created and then disappearing.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yytSNQ2ogD4 <br />
<br />
See here how this technology is being displayed in its raw format without implant... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGNvP75UYGE <br />
<br />
They have introduced a Bill in NY that litteraly gives Agencies the ability to implant us illegaly against our will with RFID chips and this Brain Scan technology. <br />
<br />
Her is the Website: http://www.us-government-torture.com/ <br />
<br />
Be assured, if they do it to us they plan to rule the world and do it to everyone. I have also communicated with a man in Germany who said that the BND are also using this technology against Germans. I fear History is repeating its-self.<br />
<br />
<br />
--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:09, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
</div></div>Sweet6b9https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:FIGU_Bulletin_002&diff=14674Talk:FIGU Bulletin 0022011-03-03T20:07:11Z<p>Sweet6b9: Comment provided by Sweet6b9 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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== weiveaste said ... ==<br />
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winsome answers i like it<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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The Hoaxers use the truth to tell their lies but the truth shines through and points humans who are looking for the truth to the True Prophet...BEAM.That is how I found Eduard and The Goblet of the Truth.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 08:52, 9 May 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Extremely well presented, logically explained with reference sources, again hats off for Billy Meier!<br />
<br />
Unfortunately we still have these delusional human parasites prostituting the Truth for their own ego and financial gain, misleading themselves and contributing to the degeneration and destruction of mankind. <br />
<br />
Yet, they continue to consume their "blood money" derived from these Creational teachings brought about through sacrifices and numerous assassination attempts against Billy, who never receives a dime for his honorable services, which these materials would have not been made possible in the first place!<br />
<br />
<br />
--Hawaiian 20:19, 9 May 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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It would seem to me that when Terrestrial Human begin to traverse the Universe as the Plejaren do and our bodies become used to moving from a physical state into a Light Body state that it would promote the body's ability to begin to move into a 5th dimensional existance as it gets more and more used to shifting into that state of being.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
</div></div>Sweet6b9https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:Asket_and_Nera_Photos&diff=14671Talk:Asket and Nera Photos2011-03-03T19:33:20Z<p>Sweet6b9: Comment provided by Sweet6b9 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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i wondered why he would take a photo of tv screen when he had so much other undeniable evidence, this seems like an unlikely but rational explanation as it would be seem very out of character 2 forge the photo, ive read alot of know it all debunkers on youtube and beyond with there silly ''rational'' explanation, the miniture trees etc! i get angry at people like that but i guess they are on there on path. i just dont know why they go to the bother if they rnt interested!<br />
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People go to such lengths to cover up and or try to falsify the truth in order to keep profit streams alive. A disgusting practice but a reality nonetheless<br />
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Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics. and other unique proofs and have them circulate safely around the world as, Billy, his associates, on ground and above and I would like.. I guess I inadvertently lied to a few of my friends about some of the photos. I hope one day soon we ,(all of us around the world) can get together without any uncomfortable thoughts/feelings of deceit or any prejudged feelings of hate, jealously and anger towards next man 'and or entity.' Peace/Wisdom/Love/Truth. To the Plejaren Fed. and their wonderful associates. <br />
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William C.<br />
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I agree TCFelon but if they had to capture everybody who falsifies Billy's work and those that lack sincerity and genuineness it would probably take all eternity. They will probably only stop the most heinous pretenders. :) The photos are rather interesting because they say that Asket and Nera are from another universe thus they don't mind there photos being here. Due to the creativity and level of lowness some beings can reach they altered it so they are dancers on a talk show. That calls for a Billy uppercut to the nose. j/k<br />
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--Mark 22:28, 29 March 2010 (BST)<br />
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Próby zamachów na Zycie Billego świadczą o niczym innym tylko o tym, że mówi on prawdę. To samo tyczy sie zafalszowywania jego zdjęć. <br />
Ci którzy znają temat szaraków i replitalian wiedzą kto to są "ludzie" w czerni... im najmniej zależy na poznaniu przez ludzi prawdy, prawdy, która przecież wyzwala, wyzwala z więzów zniewolenia..<br />
Meier od samego początku, jak zapoznałem się z jego osobą, wyzwala we mnie zaufanie... Jest zupełnie niepodobnym do tych co gonią za władzą i towarzyszącą jej ułudą pieniądza. Zna wiele praw duchowych i sam żyje wedle nich, więc mało prawdopodobne jest to, że próbowałby robić jakiekolwiek fałszerstwa, a tym bardziej, jak niektóre źródła jemu zarzucają, w celu zdobycia sławy lub majątku.<br />
Bardziej mają powody ku temu ci, którzy obawiają się zaistnienia tych praw w ludzkich sercach i umysłach, bo to rujnuje ich starania o zniewolenie gatunku ludzkiego.<br />
Więcej niczego chyba nie trzeba tu dodawać. Przynajmniej ode mnie to wszystko.<br />
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tom ist from Poland ;) <br />
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BEAM is awesome, thank you ! controlledfollymaker@gmail.com<br />
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== Matt C. said ... ==<br />
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This guy is a Fraud. His website is down, and he's far from credible. This is the person who would says that the aliens sent the blueprints for their (trashcan lid looking) UFO's to the wrong people who ended up making them into trash can lids... seriously?<br />
David doesn't know the difference between There and Their, so his opinion is out. <br />
Is it harder to cover up the "truth" or to fall into the cross hairs of a conman?<br />
I'm going with Occam's Razor on this one. This solution is the simplest, obvious, one; this man is a fraud. <br />
This post will probably be deleted. Just saying...<br />
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no your comment won't get deleted.......... haha it is always interesting to see people who come with information from second or even third hand and make judgments about others without having a clue of the person itself...... this is present in almost everyones life and i bet some judge you also in the same way. I bet you come after me when i do a "spelling" error like David did...... if one has nothing else to offer then one goes after the small and unimportant things, right ;)). If you find sth. with a higher ethic and a higher sense of moral then we can talk again. (Do not come with religions, most of them preach love and make war.) I wish you good luck in your search for the truth.<br />
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Couple things I don't understand. These are not in any certain order. <br />
1. You sell these photos. So Wouldn't any copy predating 1984 be of the original photo? And if so, how similar to the forgery are they?<br />
2. How did you find out Mr. S was working for the MIB and when? <br />
3. If Mr. S disappeared one day without a trace, how did his organization learn of his death?<br />
4. If Billy was told in 1984 these were forgeries, but yet forgot due to amnesia sustained in 1982, how was he able to recollect the origin of his nickname and the first and last name of the woman who gave it to her during an interview in 1982? Was it selected amnesia or partial?<br />
5. If you have a photo of Mr. S and factual evidence he worked for MIB, why not release that info? seems it would clear some up some of the misconceptions.<br />
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In question 3 when i say "his organization" I mean billy's. <br />
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If I understood correctly MIB is not Will Smith or Tommy Lee Jones OR from our planet. They are from the Sirian region from an alternate time space bred to cause headaches on Earth. If this info is false however there is only one solution to ponder. Is Billy really Billy or is hea fake Billy? In that case arrest Billy, Asket, Nera, we have there photos and Quetzal, Ptaah, Semjase and send them to the prison planet for questioning. No one is exempt from breaking the rules and escaping universal security. :)<br />
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There was a force of renegade Sirians known unofficially as the "men in black," and they were captured in a sting operation by Sirian security personnel in 2006, while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia."<br />
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The Earthly counterparts of the MIBs are real and were set up in the late 1940s to create fear in the minds and hearts of members of the public, military UFO witnesses, as well as the establishment (Forrestal for example) who may seek to reveal the truth about UFOs visiting this planet...which the Truman administration decided to clamp down upon...<br />
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Asket, Nera and Billy having their photos taken together sounds very recreational, but was actually intended to serve a highly useful purpose in furnishing objective evidence that "aliens" are actual relatives of earth humans and not "bug-eyed monsters," as depicted by the media, with some deliberation I might add...<br />
Indeed, there are far more points of commonality that such photos would provide, especially considering the beauty of the women selected and the fact that they were relatives from the DAL universe...(Asket.)<br />
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Unfortunately, this benign intent was muddied by the cruel MIBs, using those doubles from the US show...rendering the pix null and void..<br />
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A shame Billy did not realise sooner that the photographer (with a little persuading) had conned him with fakes.. <br />
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Drekx, you twist truth with false tales.<br />
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"while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia.""<br />
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^ you made that up, it is not part of FIGU material, Cydonia doesn't exist.<br />
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MarksmanR,<br />
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Cydonia is a well known region mapped by Earth astronomers and astro-cartographers and named by them; "cydonia." So your ignorant claims of "false tales," are falsehoods in themselves and I don't like your tone...<br />
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First of all, FIGU material is not a new religion that demands blind obedience from it's "followers."<br />
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Second, the Plejaren do not always expect you to follow everything in the reports, as if it were holy rit.<br />
You are supposed to supplement their data with your own, when possible. So if mention is made of X, you should appreciate it's correlation to Y.<br />
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Thirdly, the contact reports do mention the very "sting operation" I mentioned, that ocurred at the Cydonia region complex of monuments upon the Martian surface...<br />
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I'll attach the contact report by Ptaah for your perusal and education....<br />
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http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Men_in_Black,_Mars_and_Meteors<br />
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TCFelon said:<br />
"Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics"<br />
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Drekx response:<br />
The Sirians did capture their own renagade MIBs in 2006, ending a dangerous operation against the Plejaren programme with Meier...<br />
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So contrary to popular belief, the Sirians are well known allies of the Plejaren, even if this is not mentioned much in the contact notes, for whatever reason...<br />
The rare exceptions being contact reports 311 and 471...grateful to them for that coverage, so thanks to Billy and Ptaah.<br />
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Now with reference to the Earth human MIBs...they are operatives for the American Military-industrial complex of corporations...<br />
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Under the laws of human freewill and non interference, neither the Sirians nor Plejaren were able to prevent their mischief, at the time of the Nera/Asket photo fix..<br />
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However, with rising human consciousness and full Sirian mandate, that right to protect this planet's people with fairness, is increasingly placing pressure on the evil doers who run the NSA, MIBs, etc, etc...<br />
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Maybe if Meier were allowed to try this again, although the Plejaren would not want to risk his life, or that of his family...<br />
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It really is dependent on a change in the way this planet is secretly governed, so politics and economics require to be addressed..<br />
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Incidentally, there are no ET rulers running the human elites, no "reptiles," etc...just bad human beings running banks, governments, corporations and security..<br />
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how can we see the real pictures .<br />
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Ashegheaty, Theyfly.com has some nice pictures.Don't worry about photoshopping the pictues Asket AND Nera according to reports are in the DAL universe and cannot be affected by our Earth degeneracies. :)<br />
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i meant real pictures of asket , i searched the entire internet and couldnt find any real pictures of here , can any one help .<br />
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Ashegheaty, I think only Billy knows which one is real since he met her face-to-face. But with this in mind it could be the one on the left below: [[File:The real asket.png]]<br />
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thanks jamesm , i guess those are the long ear lobs that she has . so the timmers have longer earlobs just like the pleiadians . or maybe this is semjase .are you sure this is asket the lady from trillions of light years away , the twin universe of ours .?<br />
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another question :the pleiadians can time travel so they can travel to the future so much that they can see when our universe has became an absolute absolutum but they say they cant go beyond the seventh great time .so thats only 15 thousand trillion years from now and still a long way for us to become an absolutum , whats there limitation .and the other thing is they know whats gonna happen to humanity in the next 100 , 200 and 1000 years .and if we are going to destroy our self<br />
they know . but they cant interfere in our evolution . <br />
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You can tell through the eyes. It is best to meet them in person because looks can sometimes be manipulated. If you were to meet someone and see natural eye movement relating to certain topics and how they react you will know if they are genuine or fake.:)<br />
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The truth is beautiful. The Truth is that Billy should be given a Hero Status for enduring all he has in order to bring this information to the world. I am trying to spread the word of all that has happened and give poeple hope as well as to bring the other truth of Roswell NM. Bob Lasar, Edgar Fouche, Phil Schneider, Gary Mckinnon, Norwegian Politician, and Billy Meier and the Pleiadian Message.. Saalome.<br />
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It's so easy to determine who is Asket by using your 6th sense of intuition. With many of BEAM's materials, such "hidden" connections are to be discovered by your inner-self, devoid of ego or assumptions that many restrict themselves unfortunately.<br />
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I agree 110% with Hawaiian.............or maybe not.:)<br />
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I agree, the fact that such effort went into forgery of the Photo's of Asket and Nera are more proof that the contacts are & were real. I have personaly seen evidence that the US Government is in search for Plejaren (The good ones) and that they are working with the Baffath sect of Plejaren. It is a sickening truth to me that I live in a country that would sell their own people for technology but it is the truth. They have gone so far as to work with other Dark Ones and combine technologies and use them to try to control the masses. To date this has been a success, however I and a few others have come forward to provide proof that we are being implanted with control devices that actualy prevent us from meditating and push negative thoughts on us as well. I share this info through my website on YouTube when asked, just goto my channel, sweet6b9. Peace & Wisdom Billy Meier. You are a blessing to the Human Race.<br />
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What an utterly preposterous and lame excuse!<br />
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Meier has been caught red-handed faking these and the dinosaur photos.<br />
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Do you people have no ability to think critically?<br />
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Hi CriticalThinker.<br />
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I've read all of your comments and my thinking has told me that you most likely don't even know what critical thinking means. If you do, your posts are not showing that at all. The word "critical" in the context of critical thinking does not mean negative or disapproving or denigrating thinking, which is what the majority of your posts are based on. You should start representing your nickname a little better by educating yourself on what critical thinking actually means by studying this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking<br />
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I agree with Sanjin, it has already been made clear in the contact notes that the photo's were faked and returned to Billy and that at a later date that Quetzl destroyed them all due to the numerous forgeries. In fact they also mention how it was proven that the forgery of Asket & Nera was not taken from a TV Screen as they tried to claim, that upon closer inspection you could not see the 3 color pixilation that would have appeared if it had been taken from a TV Set. CriticalThinker sounds like a Disinformation Agent, why would someone who feels this is untrue even bother to create an account or leave messages? They wouldn't! Peace & Wisdom<br />
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</div></div>Sweet6b9https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:Billy_Meier%27s_mission&diff=14670Talk:Billy Meier's mission2011-03-03T19:25:35Z<p>Sweet6b9: Comment provided by Sweet6b9 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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I know that the Mission is real. I cannot say how I know this, but be aware. The Dark Ones have Brain monitoring devices, they give to the secret US Government. They are real, they put them in with Transporter technology. They used it to see my thoughts, scan my brain, they tried to hurt me many times now, tried to stop my heart, even make me sick. It will not work. The Pleadians must know of this technology and that they use it against us and them. They saw through my eyes a Pleadian ship and I fear Patel has been destroyed. It is dangerous here, I am in the USA in Virginia, very close to the Heart of Darkness. I have had visions of Patel since then fighting the Dark ones. I do not know if he is Ok or not. I fear he is angry with me for not having more control when the Dark ones had their device in me. He helped me break it but now they have newer devices that see through our eyes. I have awoken my Kundalini, my spirit inside with Pleadian help and I fight still to spread the word of the Kabal & Illuminati.<br />
God Help us AlL, God Bless Billy & his Family, God Bless us ALL.<br />
Love,<br />
Kevin Gaylord<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:47, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Sweet6b9,<br />
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Who is Patel or Kundalini, something or someone that is real or imagined? Again you try to negatively influence BEAM and the Plejaren mission by introducing some fallacy "god" and religious nonsense whose very existence are the reasons why BEAM has been selected as the 7th prophet to bring Creational teachings to counter-act these evil concepts!<br />
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I don't enjoy "sticking" it to people like yourself, but it really hurts to see others injuring themselves from delusional manifestations of evil religious dogmas, much less for delusions that could be controlled by medication or hard self disciplined endeavors.<br />
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Sorry, I did not have everything clear at the time, Patel = Paa Tel, The information about the brain monitoring devices is very real. I do not wish to tie BEAM or the Pleiadians to any religion. This has been made clear to me. Do not wory about sticking it to me. As I am not delusional. They may have manufactured the image of a ship for me to see, this is very true. I may not have connected with an actual Pleiadian when I tried to meditate and contact them. I am mildly telepathic as I have had many experiences in my life. I am unsure how many others can do this or have any experience with it. I have a long history of experiences in my life that stand out that I would not mind explaining however I needed to let them know about these brain monitoring devices. I do believe I am being assisted in some way, Kundalini is another way of expressing our spirit self, described as a coiled snake at the base of our spine. That is not important. I am not trying to relate them to any religion. Only wish to share the fact that their visits were REAL, that they are REAL and that our Spiritual Awakening is of the utmost importance as we approach 2012-2013. It that not true? I am aware that many of the pictures were exchanged by the MIB from the US, as these people work with the Grey/MEM/EBE's however you wish to call them. I know this without a doubt. They cannot see the Pleiadians and I am Super happy about this. Again, Not sure if the Pleiadians showed me a ship or if it was falsified by others wishing to promote their own selfish purpose. I try to listen to the message of the Pleiadians. To keep clear in my mind their intent and our destiny as Humans. I have asked them for help for out people. That we are under seige by the Grey & Draconan. This is factual. The brain monitoring device that causes me not to have normal dreams does not work on me. I awake from these dreams to know that they were manufactured. I believe they attempt to block me from meditating, from having prophetic dreams, from having focus, etc. I appologize if I upset you, I mean no disrespect. People must be woken up. Others have died to tell us the truth of our Government and Secret sects within our US Government that mean us harm. I try to share this and then to quel their fear with a message of peace and just direct people to listen to the videos and read the text available here. Can you answer for certain if the Galactic Federation of Light are related to Pleiadian Mission or BEAM?<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:43, 22 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 02:04, 26 October 2010 (BST)No need for apologies, I don’t believe the Galactic Federation of Light is the same as the Plejaren mission with BEAM. Research this website on Ashtar, dreams, greys and other topics you have mentioned regarding meditation and logical reasoning. Dreams are a learning tool, sometimes one has to use the same approach as in the waking state in order to properly analyze those dream characters. Look straight into their eyes and ask logical questions.<br />
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FIGU Bulletin 002<br />
Anything pertaining to the "Little Greys" must be scrutinized with extreme caution, for too many fantasists, madmen, charlatans and delusionals are in the habit of jumping on the bandwagon. There are also the many infamous machinations going on within the secret forces, particularly in the USA, geared to induce fear and horror regarding the extraterrestrials in people, e.g., through animal mutilations and the brainwashing of humans into experiencing horrifying recollections of purported extraterrestrials. Hence, not everything a person sees, hears, feels or is told, is the actual reality. One must be conscious of this fact, especially regarding these "Little Greys". <br />
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Sweet6b9, that meditation method you speak of utilizing the spine sounds interesting. Browsing youtube I stumbled upon some ladies that can bend and stretch there bodies known as contortion. I was wondering due to there flexibility due you get lots of babe traffic when meditating?<br />
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Hawaiian, thank you for the clarification. I continue to share my story and of the Radio Frequency Detector that I used to discover that I have been marked whith tracking devices with others and of the message delivered by William Cooper, Phil Schneider, who both mention that an offer of help was extended to the USA but was refused because no technology was offered by the Plejaren. Then I direct people to the message of hope from Billy Meier and the links with the audio tapes released by Randolph Winters.. I still meditate and I slowly feel stronger spiritualy.<br />
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Markvd, Re the meditation with use of the spine.. I do not do anything with my spine, I believe I had a spontanious Kundalini Awakening which happened when I felt the presence of Ptaah. For about 3 weeks I had hot sweats, and did not sleep but for about 3 hours a night. As far as babes go, I do not try to impress anyone with this, nor do I even mention it. I leave it to others if they choose to meditate as it is a very personal choice and Involves a conscious choice to improve one's own life. I simply try to share what I have discovered via other people comming out with their stories, ie. William Cooper, Phil Schneider, Billy Meier and ask people to consider the message and meditation as it can help to heal the planet, our bodies, how long we live, and ultimately the future of mankind. I find it refreshing that the Plejaren are mentioned by William Cooper and Phil Schneider in their lectures but they do not call them by name. They simply refer to them as Humanoid Benevolent Race that offered us help with our spirituality but not technology, then in Billy's notes the Plejaren state that we already posessed a level of technology that was beyond our spiritual level of responsability.<br />
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Re my personal experience, I have seen first hand the Brain Implant technology, the black Delta shaped ships twice. They were not Hallucinations. The ship is covered in Quasicrystals and can change its color to blend into the sky day or night. Still many people around the world have seen them and caught them on film now, just search Black Triangle UFO on YouTube, or just Black Triangle and see the many videos. Also I have witnessed the Transporter technology they use to implant us with their mind control devices. This is part of the deal with the "Little Greys", as they wish to conceal their involvement with all this technology in an attempt to keep mankind blind to the truth.<br />
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Sincerely, Kevin<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 19:01, 16 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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One more note. I believe that as Ptaah stated in the contact notes, that there are actualy Secret Intelligence Agencies here in the USA that are hunting for the Plejaren. I believe they are working with the Baffath and that they have combined forces with the Reptilians. I have personaly met a Reptilian and have witnesses as this guy has the audacity to show up at a church, I was just visiting and I do not follow any particular religion as I saw issue with putting my future in the hands of a Higher Source only to be contradicted in the Bible by being told that we were given Free Will to be responsible for our own actions? So when I saw the info in the contact notes I understood the confusion and that this was a lie that was perpratrated through a Time War actualy. I have learned that the (Little Grey) posess time travel technology. Anyway, I know the name this Reptilian goes by and I was not surprised to see one in a church as I have been implanted with a brain scan device and I already knew that they like to move toward positions of power. Also Regarding the implant here are some links..<br />
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN QUALIFIES, AS FACT THAT IMPLANTS ARE AMONG US NOW! <br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aNBssO4_do&feature=player_embedded <br />
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Listen to this man talk about billions of these implantable chips being created and then disappearing.. <br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yytSNQ2ogD4 <br />
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See here how this technology is being displayed in its raw format without implant... <br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGNvP75UYGE<br />
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They have introduced a Bill in NY that litteraly gives Agencies the ability to implant us illegaly against our will with RFID chips and this Brain Scan technology.<br />
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Her is the Website: http://www.us-government-torture.com/<br />
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Be assured, if they do it to us they plan to rule the world and do it to everyone. I have also communicated with a man in Germany who said that the BND are also using this technology against Germans. I fear History is repeating its-self.<br />
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In the Mean time my meditations are getting stronger and I will defeat this technology and move into a deep meditating state. That is my intent.<br />
Peace & Wisdom<br />
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Can anyone verify the Covenant? As It was mentioned by the Reptilian Race regarding activity on Earth.<br />
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Also does anyone have information about Aldeberon, is this a prison planet or a dead planet that the Dark Ones use as a prison planet for Light Beings?<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 23:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
</div></div>Sweet6b9https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:Scientific_Experts%27_Comments_on_Meier%27s_Evidence&diff=14531Talk:Scientific Experts' Comments on Meier's Evidence2011-02-16T23:52:41Z<p>Sweet6b9: Comment provided by Sweet6b9 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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All other opinions asside, I have seen the proof that these contacts are real as the US Government has extensive records related to the fact that these contacts are real. I do not have these records but I am attesting to this fact for all to see. They have and are having contact with the Baffath and are working with them as evidenced by the Black Triangle ships that are being seen world wide. For Video Evidence search Triangle UFO or TR-3B online or on YouTube.<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 23:52, 16 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
</div></div>Sweet6b9https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:Attempts_on_Billy%27s_Life&diff=14527Talk:Attempts on Billy's Life2011-02-16T23:14:02Z<p>Sweet6b9: Comment provided by Sweet6b9 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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i think in some way your contactees protect you<br />
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He does have friends that can see a bit into the future and he might have that ability as well. I don't understand the murderous intent by some individuals sometimes, it's like playing chess. You know that the other guy is good but some refuse a challenge so you blow up the entire chess board with an atomic bomb. If you are confident in your ways then you don't have to cause harm to those that you don't agree with. I find those that cause harm are a bunch of sore losers. <br />
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The inner strength of BEAM through such ordeals speaks so much about his dedication and love for us earth bound creatures who aren't even half humans and can be worse than animals.<br />
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The inner strength of BEAM through such ordeals speaks so much about his dedication and love for us earth bound creatures who aren't even half humans and can be worse than animals.<br />
Even animals have more decency than humans<br />
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Yes, I would agree and also expand further to include those human parasites that exist at the expense of other humans, the Creator Overlords and others like the Giza Intelligences, their ancestors and other of similar nature. Their lust and greed for power goes beyond comprehension, into a realm of insanity and total destruction, the anti-creation process that tears apart everything, similar to a black hole. Maybe that's where they belong, dark energy?<br />
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In my assessment, they are worse than non-human parasites, virus or microbes at least these lowly creatures do not have the free will to determine right from wrong!<br />
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This attempt on Billy's life with the throwing knife rings a bell as to the skills taught in the American Army/Navy/Airforce. It is a known fact that throwing a knife is taught as a fighting skill for soldiers. I would not be surprised at all if this was an attempt from a Navy soldier. It should be known that the NAVY is very heavily involved with alien technology and weapons and that there are many underwater bases being used to conceal their efforts. This is all revealed by 2 people that lost their lives telling us the truth here in the USA. They were William Cooper and Phil Schneider. Their videos can also be found on YouTube. Peace & Wisdom Billy. May Creation Bless you.<br />
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i wondered why he would take a photo of tv screen when he had so much other undeniable evidence, this seems like an unlikely but rational explanation as it would be seem very out of character 2 forge the photo, ive read alot of know it all debunkers on youtube and beyond with there silly ''rational'' explanation, the miniture trees etc! i get angry at people like that but i guess they are on there on path. i just dont know why they go to the bother if they rnt interested!<br />
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People go to such lengths to cover up and or try to falsify the truth in order to keep profit streams alive. A disgusting practice but a reality nonetheless<br />
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Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics. and other unique proofs and have them circulate safely around the world as, Billy, his associates, on ground and above and I would like.. I guess I inadvertently lied to a few of my friends about some of the photos. I hope one day soon we ,(all of us around the world) can get together without any uncomfortable thoughts/feelings of deceit or any prejudged feelings of hate, jealously and anger towards next man 'and or entity.' Peace/Wisdom/Love/Truth. To the Plejaren Fed. and their wonderful associates. <br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I agree TCFelon but if they had to capture everybody who falsifies Billy's work and those that lack sincerity and genuineness it would probably take all eternity. They will probably only stop the most heinous pretenders. :) The photos are rather interesting because they say that Asket and Nera are from another universe thus they don't mind there photos being here. Due to the creativity and level of lowness some beings can reach they altered it so they are dancers on a talk show. That calls for a Billy uppercut to the nose. j/k<br />
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== tom said ... ==<br />
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Próby zamachów na Zycie Billego świadczą o niczym innym tylko o tym, że mówi on prawdę. To samo tyczy sie zafalszowywania jego zdjęć. <br />
Ci którzy znają temat szaraków i replitalian wiedzą kto to są "ludzie" w czerni... im najmniej zależy na poznaniu przez ludzi prawdy, prawdy, która przecież wyzwala, wyzwala z więzów zniewolenia..<br />
Meier od samego początku, jak zapoznałem się z jego osobą, wyzwala we mnie zaufanie... Jest zupełnie niepodobnym do tych co gonią za władzą i towarzyszącą jej ułudą pieniądza. Zna wiele praw duchowych i sam żyje wedle nich, więc mało prawdopodobne jest to, że próbowałby robić jakiekolwiek fałszerstwa, a tym bardziej, jak niektóre źródła jemu zarzucają, w celu zdobycia sławy lub majątku.<br />
Bardziej mają powody ku temu ci, którzy obawiają się zaistnienia tych praw w ludzkich sercach i umysłach, bo to rujnuje ich starania o zniewolenie gatunku ludzkiego.<br />
Więcej niczego chyba nie trzeba tu dodawać. Przynajmniej ode mnie to wszystko.<br />
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BEAM is awesome, thank you ! controlledfollymaker@gmail.com<br />
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This guy is a Fraud. His website is down, and he's far from credible. This is the person who would says that the aliens sent the blueprints for their (trashcan lid looking) UFO's to the wrong people who ended up making them into trash can lids... seriously?<br />
David doesn't know the difference between There and Their, so his opinion is out. <br />
Is it harder to cover up the "truth" or to fall into the cross hairs of a conman?<br />
I'm going with Occam's Razor on this one. This solution is the simplest, obvious, one; this man is a fraud. <br />
This post will probably be deleted. Just saying...<br />
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no your comment won't get deleted.......... haha it is always interesting to see people who come with information from second or even third hand and make judgments about others without having a clue of the person itself...... this is present in almost everyones life and i bet some judge you also in the same way. I bet you come after me when i do a "spelling" error like David did...... if one has nothing else to offer then one goes after the small and unimportant things, right ;)). If you find sth. with a higher ethic and a higher sense of moral then we can talk again. (Do not come with religions, most of them preach love and make war.) I wish you good luck in your search for the truth.<br />
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Couple things I don't understand. These are not in any certain order. <br />
1. You sell these photos. So Wouldn't any copy predating 1984 be of the original photo? And if so, how similar to the forgery are they?<br />
2. How did you find out Mr. S was working for the MIB and when? <br />
3. If Mr. S disappeared one day without a trace, how did his organization learn of his death?<br />
4. If Billy was told in 1984 these were forgeries, but yet forgot due to amnesia sustained in 1982, how was he able to recollect the origin of his nickname and the first and last name of the woman who gave it to her during an interview in 1982? Was it selected amnesia or partial?<br />
5. If you have a photo of Mr. S and factual evidence he worked for MIB, why not release that info? seems it would clear some up some of the misconceptions.<br />
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DRN <br />
If I understood correctly MIB is not Will Smith or Tommy Lee Jones OR from our planet. They are from the Sirian region from an alternate time space bred to cause headaches on Earth. If this info is false however there is only one solution to ponder. Is Billy really Billy or is hea fake Billy? In that case arrest Billy, Asket, Nera, we have there photos and Quetzal, Ptaah, Semjase and send them to the prison planet for questioning. No one is exempt from breaking the rules and escaping universal security. :)<br />
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There was a force of renegade Sirians known unofficially as the "men in black," and they were captured in a sting operation by Sirian security personnel in 2006, while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia."<br />
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The Earthly counterparts of the MIBs are real and were set up in the late 1940s to create fear in the minds and hearts of members of the public, military UFO witnesses, as well as the establishment (Forrestal for example) who may seek to reveal the truth about UFOs visiting this planet...which the Truman administration decided to clamp down upon...<br />
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Asket, Nera and Billy having their photos taken together sounds very recreational, but was actually intended to serve a highly useful purpose in furnishing objective evidence that "aliens" are actual relatives of earth humans and not "bug-eyed monsters," as depicted by the media, with some deliberation I might add...<br />
Indeed, there are far more points of commonality that such photos would provide, especially considering the beauty of the women selected and the fact that they were relatives from the DAL universe...(Asket.)<br />
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Unfortunately, this benign intent was muddied by the cruel MIBs, using those doubles from the US show...rendering the pix null and void..<br />
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A shame Billy did not realise sooner that the photographer (with a little persuading) had conned him with fakes.. <br />
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Drekx, you twist truth with false tales.<br />
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"while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia.""<br />
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^ you made that up, it is not part of FIGU material, Cydonia doesn't exist.<br />
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Cydonia is a well known region mapped by Earth astronomers and astro-cartographers and named by them; "cydonia." So your ignorant claims of "false tales," are falsehoods in themselves and I don't like your tone...<br />
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First of all, FIGU material is not a new religion that demands blind obedience from it's "followers."<br />
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Second, the Plejaren do not always expect you to follow everything in the reports, as if it were holy rit.<br />
You are supposed to supplement their data with your own, when possible. So if mention is made of X, you should appreciate it's correlation to Y.<br />
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Thirdly, the contact reports do mention the very "sting operation" I mentioned, that ocurred at the Cydonia region complex of monuments upon the Martian surface...<br />
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I'll attach the contact report by Ptaah for your perusal and education....<br />
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http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Men_in_Black,_Mars_and_Meteors<br />
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TCFelon said:<br />
"Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics"<br />
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Drekx response:<br />
The Sirians did capture their own renagade MIBs in 2006, ending a dangerous operation against the Plejaren programme with Meier...<br />
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So contrary to popular belief, the Sirians are well known allies of the Plejaren, even if this is not mentioned much in the contact notes, for whatever reason...<br />
The rare exceptions being contact reports 311 and 471...grateful to them for that coverage, so thanks to Billy and Ptaah.<br />
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Now with reference to the Earth human MIBs...they are operatives for the American Military-industrial complex of corporations...<br />
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Under the laws of human freewill and non interference, neither the Sirians nor Plejaren were able to prevent their mischief, at the time of the Nera/Asket photo fix..<br />
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However, with rising human consciousness and full Sirian mandate, that right to protect this planet's people with fairness, is increasingly placing pressure on the evil doers who run the NSA, MIBs, etc, etc...<br />
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Maybe if Meier were allowed to try this again, although the Plejaren would not want to risk his life, or that of his family...<br />
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It really is dependent on a change in the way this planet is secretly governed, so politics and economics require to be addressed..<br />
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Incidentally, there are no ET rulers running the human elites, no "reptiles," etc...just bad human beings running banks, governments, corporations and security..<br />
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how can we see the real pictures .<br />
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Ashegheaty, Theyfly.com has some nice pictures.Don't worry about photoshopping the pictues Asket AND Nera according to reports are in the DAL universe and cannot be affected by our Earth degeneracies. :)<br />
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i meant real pictures of asket , i searched the entire internet and couldnt find any real pictures of here , can any one help .<br />
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Ashegheaty, I think only Billy knows which one is real since he met her face-to-face. But with this in mind it could be the one on the left below: [[File:The real asket.png]]<br />
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thanks jamesm , i guess those are the long ear lobs that she has . so the timmers have longer earlobs just like the pleiadians . or maybe this is semjase .are you sure this is asket the lady from trillions of light years away , the twin universe of ours .?<br />
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another question :the pleiadians can time travel so they can travel to the future so much that they can see when our universe has became an absolute absolutum but they say they cant go beyond the seventh great time .so thats only 15 thousand trillion years from now and still a long way for us to become an absolutum , whats there limitation .and the other thing is they know whats gonna happen to humanity in the next 100 , 200 and 1000 years .and if we are going to destroy our self<br />
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You can tell through the eyes. It is best to meet them in person because looks can sometimes be manipulated. If you were to meet someone and see natural eye movement relating to certain topics and how they react you will know if they are genuine or fake.:)<br />
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The truth is beautiful. The Truth is that Billy should be given a Hero Status for enduring all he has in order to bring this information to the world. I am trying to spread the word of all that has happened and give poeple hope as well as to bring the other truth of Roswell NM. Bob Lasar, Edgar Fouche, Phil Schneider, Gary Mckinnon, Norwegian Politician, and Billy Meier and the Pleiadian Message.. Saalome.<br />
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It's so easy to determine who is Asket by using your 6th sense of intuition. With many of BEAM's materials, such "hidden" connections are to be discovered by your inner-self, devoid of ego or assumptions that many restrict themselves unfortunately.<br />
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I agree, the fact that such effort went into forgery of the Photo's of Asket and Nera are more proof that the contacts are & were real. I have personaly seen evidence that the US Government is in search for Plejaren (The good ones) and that they are working with the Baffath sect of Plejaren. It is a sickening truth to me that I live in a country that would sell their own people for technology but it is the truth. They have gone so far as to work with other Dark Ones and combine technologies and use them to try to control the masses. To date this has been a success, however I and a few others have come forward to provide proof that we are being implanted with control devices that actualy prevent us from meditating and push negative thoughts on us as well. I share this info through my website on YouTube when asked, just goto my channel, sweet6b9. Peace & Wisdom Billy Meier. You are a blessing to the Human Race.<br />
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I don't know if that is a rough sketch done in minutes by Ptaah of Sfath but I think Earth has far exceeded the Plejarens artistic capabilities in terms of artistic representation of likenesses. ................maintains powerful forcefield blocking against any counters by daughter Semjase against her fathers abilities. :) I read somewhere they aim for the most realistic looking art but I guess sometimes you win some and you lose some. j/k<br />
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Is there more contact notes from Sfath?<br />
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I know that the Mission is real. I cannot say how I know this, but be aware. The Dark Ones have Brain monitoring devices, they give to the secret US Government. They are real, they put them in with Transporter technology. They used it to see my thoughts, scan my brain, they tried to hurt me many times now, tried to stop my heart, even make me sick. It will not work. The Pleadians must know of this technology and that they use it against us and them. They saw through my eyes a Pleadian ship and I fear Patel has been destroyed. It is dangerous here, I am in the USA in Virginia, very close to the Heart of Darkness. I have had visions of Patel since then fighting the Dark ones. I do not know if he is Ok or not. I fear he is angry with me for not having more control when the Dark ones had their device in me. He helped me break it but now they have newer devices that see through our eyes. I have awoken my Kundalini, my spirit inside with Pleadian help and I fight still to spread the word of the Kabal & Illuminati.<br />
God Help us AlL, God Bless Billy & his Family, God Bless us ALL.<br />
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Who is Patel or Kundalini, something or someone that is real or imagined? Again you try to negatively influence BEAM and the Plejaren mission by introducing some fallacy "god" and religious nonsense whose very existence are the reasons why BEAM has been selected as the 7th prophet to bring Creational teachings to counter-act these evil concepts!<br />
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I don't enjoy "sticking" it to people like yourself, but it really hurts to see others injuring themselves from delusional manifestations of evil religious dogmas, much less for delusions that could be controlled by medication or hard self disciplined endeavors.<br />
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Sorry, I did not have everything clear at the time, Patel = Paa Tel, The information about the brain monitoring devices is very real. I do not wish to tie BEAM or the Pleiadians to any religion. This has been made clear to me. Do not wory about sticking it to me. As I am not delusional. They may have manufactured the image of a ship for me to see, this is very true. I may not have connected with an actual Pleiadian when I tried to meditate and contact them. I am mildly telepathic as I have had many experiences in my life. I am unsure how many others can do this or have any experience with it. I have a long history of experiences in my life that stand out that I would not mind explaining however I needed to let them know about these brain monitoring devices. I do believe I am being assisted in some way, Kundalini is another way of expressing our spirit self, described as a coiled snake at the base of our spine. That is not important. I am not trying to relate them to any religion. Only wish to share the fact that their visits were REAL, that they are REAL and that our Spiritual Awakening is of the utmost importance as we approach 2012-2013. It that not true? I am aware that many of the pictures were exchanged by the MIB from the US, as these people work with the Grey/MEM/EBE's however you wish to call them. I know this without a doubt. They cannot see the Pleiadians and I am Super happy about this. Again, Not sure if the Pleiadians showed me a ship or if it was falsified by others wishing to promote their own selfish purpose. I try to listen to the message of the Pleiadians. To keep clear in my mind their intent and our destiny as Humans. I have asked them for help for out people. That we are under seige by the Grey & Draconan. This is factual. The brain monitoring device that causes me not to have normal dreams does not work on me. I awake from these dreams to know that they were manufactured. I believe they attempt to block me from meditating, from having prophetic dreams, from having focus, etc. I appologize if I upset you, I mean no disrespect. People must be woken up. Others have died to tell us the truth of our Government and Secret sects within our US Government that mean us harm. I try to share this and then to quel their fear with a message of peace and just direct people to listen to the videos and read the text available here. Can you answer for certain if the Galactic Federation of Light are related to Pleiadian Mission or BEAM?<br />
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[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 02:04, 26 October 2010 (BST)No need for apologies, I don’t believe the Galactic Federation of Light is the same as the Plejaren mission with BEAM. Research this website on Ashtar, dreams, greys and other topics you have mentioned regarding meditation and logical reasoning. Dreams are a learning tool, sometimes one has to use the same approach as in the waking state in order to properly analyze those dream characters. Look straight into their eyes and ask logical questions.<br />
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FIGU Bulletin 002<br />
Anything pertaining to the "Little Greys" must be scrutinized with extreme caution, for too many fantasists, madmen, charlatans and delusionals are in the habit of jumping on the bandwagon. There are also the many infamous machinations going on within the secret forces, particularly in the USA, geared to induce fear and horror regarding the extraterrestrials in people, e.g., through animal mutilations and the brainwashing of humans into experiencing horrifying recollections of purported extraterrestrials. Hence, not everything a person sees, hears, feels or is told, is the actual reality. One must be conscious of this fact, especially regarding these "Little Greys". <br />
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Sweet6b9, that meditation method you speak of utilizing the spine sounds interesting. Browsing youtube I stumbled upon some ladies that can bend and stretch there bodies known as contortion. I was wondering due to there flexibility due you get lots of babe traffic when meditating?<br />
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Hawaiian, thank you for the clarification. I continue to share my story and of the Radio Frequency Detector that I used to discover that I have been marked whith tracking devices with others and of the message delivered by William Cooper, Phil Schneider, who both mention that an offer of help was extended to the USA but was refused because no technology was offered by the Plejaren. Then I direct people to the message of hope from Billy Meier and the links with the audio tapes released by Randolph Winters.. I still meditate and I slowly feel stronger spiritualy.<br />
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Markvd, Re the meditation with use of the spine.. I do not do anything with my spine, I believe I had a spontanious Kundalini Awakening which happened when I felt the presence of Ptaah. For about 3 weeks I had hot sweats, and did not sleep but for about 3 hours a night. As far as babes go, I do not try to impress anyone with this, nor do I even mention it. I leave it to others if they choose to meditate as it is a very personal choice and Involves a conscious choice to improve one's own life. I simply try to share what I have discovered via other people comming out with their stories, ie. William Cooper, Phil Schneider, Billy Meier and ask people to consider the message and meditation as it can help to heal the planet, our bodies, how long we live, and ultimately the future of mankind. I find it refreshing that the Plejaren are mentioned by William Cooper and Phil Schneider in their lectures but they do not call them by name. They simply refer to them as Humanoid Benevolent Race that offered us help with our spirituality but not technology, then in Billy's notes the Plejaren state that we already posessed a level of technology that was beyond our spiritual level of responsability.<br />
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Re my personal experience, I have seen first hand the Brain Implant technology, the black Delta shaped ships twice. They were not Hallucinations. The ship is covered in Quasicrystals and can change its color to blend into the sky day or night. Still many people around the world have seen them and caught them on film now, just search Black Triangle UFO on YouTube, or just Black Triangle and see the many videos. Also I have witnessed the Transporter technology they use to implant us with their mind control devices. This is part of the deal with the "Little Greys", as they wish to conceal their involvement with all this technology in an attempt to keep mankind blind to the truth.<br />
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I cannot translate the information but my family has a friend in Germany named Heinzbernd Padberg who has learned broken english and regularly contacts my parents and myself for holiday greetings and may be able to assist. Please contact me at sweet6b9@yahoo.com if you still require any assistance with this and I can contact him and see if he would be interested.<br />
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Peace & Wisdom Billy. May we be responsible for our own actions and step up against those Dark Ones that are now in control in our Worlds Governments. They can be known as NWO, Illuminati, VRIL Society, Skull & Bones, and they convene at Bohemian Grove!! I have seen evidence to support all that you have given, here in the USA in the Government where I have worked. I am aware that the Plajaren came and offered their help but were treated poorly and turned away. Now the Dark Ones and the Grey are in control of our Navy & Airforce & Secret Intelligence Agencies. The Army is ill equiped to defend against their technology. My spirit is awake and I fight for my life, they steel my sleep and push dreams on me and they have implanted my body to try to prevent me from meditation. I have seen spirits all my life but tell no one until now.<br />
Billy, I need to let you know what is going to happen the way I see it. See YouTube for video "NASA Sun Objects", they are destroying the sun. It will change soon. Fire will rain down from the sky as predicted. The sun will turn Red and the Moon. The HAARP has depleated our ionosphere. The ones in charge think they will live deep within the earth and on the Moon and Mars where we now have military forces. They are unaware that they are being deceived even though they have been lied to over and over. I tell them again and again but they do not care what I say.<br />
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Peace & wisdom Billy, You are a HERO in my book always and your message has saved my life so far! I have made mistakes but I try still.<br />
I fear Ptaah has been taken to Aldeberan for helping me. Something about violating the Covenant?? But I called to him to ask for help for the innocent that are being taken. You need not reply to that. I only hope I have the strength you had in the past to face my challenge ahead. You should know that the Black Delta ships are back and they are making more in Dulce NM in the USA close to a place called Area 51.<br />
Love & Light,<br />
Kevin<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 23:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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i wondered why he would take a photo of tv screen when he had so much other undeniable evidence, this seems like an unlikely but rational explanation as it would be seem very out of character 2 forge the photo, ive read alot of know it all debunkers on youtube and beyond with there silly ''rational'' explanation, the miniture trees etc! i get angry at people like that but i guess they are on there on path. i just dont know why they go to the bother if they rnt interested!<br />
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People go to such lengths to cover up and or try to falsify the truth in order to keep profit streams alive. A disgusting practice but a reality nonetheless<br />
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Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics. and other unique proofs and have them circulate safely around the world as, Billy, his associates, on ground and above and I would like.. I guess I inadvertently lied to a few of my friends about some of the photos. I hope one day soon we ,(all of us around the world) can get together without any uncomfortable thoughts/feelings of deceit or any prejudged feelings of hate, jealously and anger towards next man 'and or entity.' Peace/Wisdom/Love/Truth. To the Plejaren Fed. and their wonderful associates. <br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I agree TCFelon but if they had to capture everybody who falsifies Billy's work and those that lack sincerity and genuineness it would probably take all eternity. They will probably only stop the most heinous pretenders. :) The photos are rather interesting because they say that Asket and Nera are from another universe thus they don't mind there photos being here. Due to the creativity and level of lowness some beings can reach they altered it so they are dancers on a talk show. That calls for a Billy uppercut to the nose. j/k<br />
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Próby zamachów na Zycie Billego świadczą o niczym innym tylko o tym, że mówi on prawdę. To samo tyczy sie zafalszowywania jego zdjęć. <br />
Ci którzy znają temat szaraków i replitalian wiedzą kto to są "ludzie" w czerni... im najmniej zależy na poznaniu przez ludzi prawdy, prawdy, która przecież wyzwala, wyzwala z więzów zniewolenia..<br />
Meier od samego początku, jak zapoznałem się z jego osobą, wyzwala we mnie zaufanie... Jest zupełnie niepodobnym do tych co gonią za władzą i towarzyszącą jej ułudą pieniądza. Zna wiele praw duchowych i sam żyje wedle nich, więc mało prawdopodobne jest to, że próbowałby robić jakiekolwiek fałszerstwa, a tym bardziej, jak niektóre źródła jemu zarzucają, w celu zdobycia sławy lub majątku.<br />
Bardziej mają powody ku temu ci, którzy obawiają się zaistnienia tych praw w ludzkich sercach i umysłach, bo to rujnuje ich starania o zniewolenie gatunku ludzkiego.<br />
Więcej niczego chyba nie trzeba tu dodawać. Przynajmniej ode mnie to wszystko.<br />
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tom ist from Poland ;) <br />
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BEAM is awesome, thank you ! controlledfollymaker@gmail.com<br />
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This guy is a Fraud. His website is down, and he's far from credible. This is the person who would says that the aliens sent the blueprints for their (trashcan lid looking) UFO's to the wrong people who ended up making them into trash can lids... seriously?<br />
David doesn't know the difference between There and Their, so his opinion is out. <br />
Is it harder to cover up the "truth" or to fall into the cross hairs of a conman?<br />
I'm going with Occam's Razor on this one. This solution is the simplest, obvious, one; this man is a fraud. <br />
This post will probably be deleted. Just saying...<br />
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no your comment won't get deleted.......... haha it is always interesting to see people who come with information from second or even third hand and make judgments about others without having a clue of the person itself...... this is present in almost everyones life and i bet some judge you also in the same way. I bet you come after me when i do a "spelling" error like David did...... if one has nothing else to offer then one goes after the small and unimportant things, right ;)). If you find sth. with a higher ethic and a higher sense of moral then we can talk again. (Do not come with religions, most of them preach love and make war.) I wish you good luck in your search for the truth.<br />
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Couple things I don't understand. These are not in any certain order. <br />
1. You sell these photos. So Wouldn't any copy predating 1984 be of the original photo? And if so, how similar to the forgery are they?<br />
2. How did you find out Mr. S was working for the MIB and when? <br />
3. If Mr. S disappeared one day without a trace, how did his organization learn of his death?<br />
4. If Billy was told in 1984 these were forgeries, but yet forgot due to amnesia sustained in 1982, how was he able to recollect the origin of his nickname and the first and last name of the woman who gave it to her during an interview in 1982? Was it selected amnesia or partial?<br />
5. If you have a photo of Mr. S and factual evidence he worked for MIB, why not release that info? seems it would clear some up some of the misconceptions.<br />
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In question 3 when i say "his organization" I mean billy's. <br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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DRN <br />
If I understood correctly MIB is not Will Smith or Tommy Lee Jones OR from our planet. They are from the Sirian region from an alternate time space bred to cause headaches on Earth. If this info is false however there is only one solution to ponder. Is Billy really Billy or is hea fake Billy? In that case arrest Billy, Asket, Nera, we have there photos and Quetzal, Ptaah, Semjase and send them to the prison planet for questioning. No one is exempt from breaking the rules and escaping universal security. :)<br />
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There was a force of renegade Sirians known unofficially as the "men in black," and they were captured in a sting operation by Sirian security personnel in 2006, while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia."<br />
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The Earthly counterparts of the MIBs are real and were set up in the late 1940s to create fear in the minds and hearts of members of the public, military UFO witnesses, as well as the establishment (Forrestal for example) who may seek to reveal the truth about UFOs visiting this planet...which the Truman administration decided to clamp down upon...<br />
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Asket, Nera and Billy having their photos taken together sounds very recreational, but was actually intended to serve a highly useful purpose in furnishing objective evidence that "aliens" are actual relatives of earth humans and not "bug-eyed monsters," as depicted by the media, with some deliberation I might add...<br />
Indeed, there are far more points of commonality that such photos would provide, especially considering the beauty of the women selected and the fact that they were relatives from the DAL universe...(Asket.)<br />
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Unfortunately, this benign intent was muddied by the cruel MIBs, using those doubles from the US show...rendering the pix null and void..<br />
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A shame Billy did not realise sooner that the photographer (with a little persuading) had conned him with fakes.. <br />
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Drekx, you twist truth with false tales.<br />
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"while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia.""<br />
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^ you made that up, it is not part of FIGU material, Cydonia doesn't exist.<br />
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Cydonia is a well known region mapped by Earth astronomers and astro-cartographers and named by them; "cydonia." So your ignorant claims of "false tales," are falsehoods in themselves and I don't like your tone...<br />
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First of all, FIGU material is not a new religion that demands blind obedience from it's "followers."<br />
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Second, the Plejaren do not always expect you to follow everything in the reports, as if it were holy rit.<br />
You are supposed to supplement their data with your own, when possible. So if mention is made of X, you should appreciate it's correlation to Y.<br />
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Thirdly, the contact reports do mention the very "sting operation" I mentioned, that ocurred at the Cydonia region complex of monuments upon the Martian surface...<br />
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I'll attach the contact report by Ptaah for your perusal and education....<br />
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http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Men_in_Black,_Mars_and_Meteors<br />
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TCFelon said:<br />
"Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics"<br />
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Drekx response:<br />
The Sirians did capture their own renagade MIBs in 2006, ending a dangerous operation against the Plejaren programme with Meier...<br />
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So contrary to popular belief, the Sirians are well known allies of the Plejaren, even if this is not mentioned much in the contact notes, for whatever reason...<br />
The rare exceptions being contact reports 311 and 471...grateful to them for that coverage, so thanks to Billy and Ptaah.<br />
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Now with reference to the Earth human MIBs...they are operatives for the American Military-industrial complex of corporations...<br />
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Under the laws of human freewill and non interference, neither the Sirians nor Plejaren were able to prevent their mischief, at the time of the Nera/Asket photo fix..<br />
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However, with rising human consciousness and full Sirian mandate, that right to protect this planet's people with fairness, is increasingly placing pressure on the evil doers who run the NSA, MIBs, etc, etc...<br />
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Maybe if Meier were allowed to try this again, although the Plejaren would not want to risk his life, or that of his family...<br />
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It really is dependent on a change in the way this planet is secretly governed, so politics and economics require to be addressed..<br />
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Incidentally, there are no ET rulers running the human elites, no "reptiles," etc...just bad human beings running banks, governments, corporations and security..<br />
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how can we see the real pictures .<br />
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Ashegheaty, Theyfly.com has some nice pictures.Don't worry about photoshopping the pictues Asket AND Nera according to reports are in the DAL universe and cannot be affected by our Earth degeneracies. :)<br />
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i meant real pictures of asket , i searched the entire internet and couldnt find any real pictures of here , can any one help .<br />
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Ashegheaty, I think only Billy knows which one is real since he met her face-to-face. But with this in mind it could be the one on the left below: [[File:The real asket.png]]<br />
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thanks jamesm , i guess those are the long ear lobs that she has . so the timmers have longer earlobs just like the pleiadians . or maybe this is semjase .are you sure this is asket the lady from trillions of light years away , the twin universe of ours .?<br />
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another question :the pleiadians can time travel so they can travel to the future so much that they can see when our universe has became an absolute absolutum but they say they cant go beyond the seventh great time .so thats only 15 thousand trillion years from now and still a long way for us to become an absolutum , whats there limitation .and the other thing is they know whats gonna happen to humanity in the next 100 , 200 and 1000 years .and if we are going to destroy our self<br />
they know . but they cant interfere in our evolution . <br />
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You can tell through the eyes. It is best to meet them in person because looks can sometimes be manipulated. If you were to meet someone and see natural eye movement relating to certain topics and how they react you will know if they are genuine or fake.:)<br />
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The truth is beautiful. The Truth is that Billy should be given a Hero Status for enduring all he has in order to bring this information to the world. I am trying to spread the word of all that has happened and give poeple hope as well as to bring the other truth of Roswell NM. Bob Lasar, Edgar Fouche, Phil Schneider, Gary Mckinnon, Norwegian Politician, and Billy Meier and the Pleiadian Message.. Saalome.<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 22:31, 23 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
</div></div>Sweet6b9https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:Billy_Meier%27s_mission&diff=13011Talk:Billy Meier's mission2010-10-22T19:43:02Z<p>Sweet6b9: Comment provided by Sweet6b9 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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I know that the Mission is real. I cannot say how I know this, but be aware. The Dark Ones have Brain monitoring devices, they give to the secret US Government. They are real, they put them in with Transporter technology. They used it to see my thoughts, scan my brain, they tried to hurt me many times now, tried to stop my heart, even make me sick. It will not work. The Pleadians must know of this technology and that they use it against us and them. They saw through my eyes a Pleadian ship and I fear Patel has been destroyed. It is dangerous here, I am in the USA in Virginia, very close to the Heart of Darkness. I have had visions of Patel since then fighting the Dark ones. I do not know if he is Ok or not. I fear he is angry with me for not having more control when the Dark ones had their device in me. He helped me break it but now they have newer devices that see through our eyes. I have awoken my Kundalini, my spirit inside with Pleadian help and I fight still to spread the word of the Kabal & Illuminati.<br />
God Help us AlL, God Bless Billy & his Family, God Bless us ALL.<br />
Love,<br />
Kevin Gaylord<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:47, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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Sweet6b9,<br />
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Who is Patel or Kundalini, something or someone that is real or imagined? Again you try to negatively influence BEAM and the Plejaren mission by introducing some fallacy "god" and religious nonsense whose very existence are the reasons why BEAM has been selected as the 7th prophet to bring Creational teachings to counter-act these evil concepts!<br />
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I don't enjoy "sticking" it to people like yourself, but it really hurts to see others injuring themselves from delusional manifestations of evil religious dogmas, much less for delusions that could be controlled by medication or hard self disciplined endeavors.<br />
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Sorry, I did not have everything clear at the time, Patel = Paa Tel, The information about the brain monitoring devices is very real. I do not wish to tie BEAM or the Pleiadians to any religion. This has been made clear to me. Do not wory about sticking it to me. As I am not delusional. They may have manufactured the image of a ship for me to see, this is very true. I may not have connected with an actual Pleiadian when I tried to meditate and contact them. I am mildly telepathic as I have had many experiences in my life. I am unsure how many others can do this or have any experience with it. I have a long history of experiences in my life that stand out that I would not mind explaining however I needed to let them know about these brain monitoring devices. I do believe I am being assisted in some way, Kundalini is another way of expressing our spirit self, described as a coiled snake at the base of our spine. That is not important. I am not trying to relate them to any religion. Only wish to share the fact that their visits were REAL, that they are REAL and that our Spiritual Awakening is of the utmost importance as we approach 2012-2013. It that not true? I am aware that many of the pictures were exchanged by the MIB from the US, as these people work with the Grey/MEM/EBE's however you wish to call them. I know this without a doubt. They cannot see the Pleiadians and I am Super happy about this. Again, Not sure if the Pleiadians showed me a ship or if it was falsified by others wishing to promote their own selfish purpose. I try to listen to the message of the Pleiadians. To keep clear in my mind their intent and our destiny as Humans. I have asked them for help for out people. That we are under seige by the Grey & Draconan. This is factual. The brain monitoring device that causes me not to have normal dreams does not work on me. I awake from these dreams to know that they were manufactured. I believe they attempt to block me from meditating, from having prophetic dreams, from having focus, etc. I appologize if I upset you, I mean no disrespect. People must be woken up. Others have died to tell us the truth of our Government and Secret sects within our US Government that mean us harm. I try to share this and then to quel their fear with a message of peace and just direct people to listen to the videos and read the text available here. Can you answer for certain if the Galactic Federation of Light are related to Pleiadian Mission or BEAM?<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:43, 22 October 2010 (BST)<br />
</div></div>Sweet6b9https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:Billy_Meier%27s_mission&diff=12916Talk:Billy Meier's mission2010-10-12T19:47:27Z<p>Sweet6b9: Comment provided by Sweet6b9 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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I know that the Mission is real. I cannot say how I know this, but be aware. The Dark Ones have Brain monitoring devices, they give to the secret US Government. They are real, they put them in with Transporter technology. They used it to see my thoughts, scan my brain, they tried to hurt me many times now, tried to stop my heart, even make me sick. It will not work. The Pleadians must know of this technology and that they use it against us and them. They saw through my eyes a Pleadian ship and I fear Patel has been destroyed. It is dangerous here, I am in the USA in Virginia, very close to the Heart of Darkness. I have had visions of Patel since then fighting the Dark ones. I do not know if he is Ok or not. I fear he is angry with me for not having more control when the Dark ones had their device in me. He helped me break it but now they have newer devices that see through our eyes. I have awoken my Kundalini, my spirit inside with Pleadian help and I fight still to spread the word of the Kabal & Illuminati.<br />
God Help us AlL, God Bless Billy & his Family, God Bless us ALL.<br />
Love,<br />
Kevin Gaylord<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 20:47, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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